Landscapers refuse to work for gay couple

[Impaler[WrG]]

In addition to directly discouraging other costomers another smart thing to do would be to contact the Suppliers of the Gardeners (Plant nursuries, equipment retialers, landscaping material producers etc etc.) and encourage them to excerciese their right to free assosiation and not sell anything to Bigots. That would put them in a double bind.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Flip McWho


Obviously but who the hell really cares? It's only landscaping afterall

How obtuse are you? Landscaping is not the issue here -- rather, the principle of acceptance and equality as opposed to ignorance and bigotry is what is at issue.

[Flip McWho]

Yes and ignorance and bigotry has always existed and more than likely will continue to do so.

Again who cares. It's not like their ignorance and bigotry is all that important.

[Flip McWho]

Note, I agree with you in principle.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Note, I agree with you in principle.

So you agree in principle its wrong but disagree that anyone should realy care about it? Sounds rather contradictory to me

[Flip McWho]

I agree in principle that its ignorant and bigoted but people are entitled to their ignorant and bigoted opinions and when those people are mr and mrs joe blog theres no reason to care.

[Provost Harrison]

But the question is, what would you all think if this was done to a black couple, for example?

[Will9]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I can understand them not wanting to do landscaping for them. You have to bend over all the time spreading mulch and what not. No one wants some gay guy leching over your butt when your working.

100% true.

[Gibsie]

Four posts about something you don't care about Flip? You must really not care a whole lot!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
But the question is, what would you all think if this was done to a black couple, for example?

Same thing.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Flip McWho
Note, I agree with you in principle.

You can't have your cake, and eat it too, my friend.


Just because things have always happened in human history, and appear to have had an incredibly long tradition, does not mean we should put our hands up in the air, and sigh, "Oh well, we should just give up, and leave them be."

It would be unacceptable for all us to give up in the face of evil.

[ajbera]

Any (non-essential) business person or service provider has the right to refuse service if serving would place them in an uncomfortable environment.

You're using the standard arguments of "how would you feel if the client was black?" What if you were hired to fix the computer of a homicide detective who kept graphic photos of his "clients" around the house, and this really got to you? Are you allowed to say it's upsetting and you can't work there?

Or a client who has a 24/7 slave, some woman kept (consensually) in a cage in the living room. Should a feminist be forced to work in such an environment, or are they allowed to decline the job?

(For the record, I think it would be awesome to work in either place, but I'm weird.)

Discrimination takes many shapes. Aside from the usual bigotry against gays, Jews, etc., there are plenty of non-standard characteristics that can upset or offend somebody. If you are upset or offended, you have the right not to put yourself in such a situation.

Of course the rebuffed client has every right to draw attention to your actions, and you may well suffer the consequences if other clients choose not to contract your services. You certainly do not deserve death threats or verbal abuse.

Egalitarianism and freedom are not synonymous. It's important for you to have the freedom to say "No."