Winning at any Cost

[Fake Boris]

Harassing people on the phone is criminal. Harassing people on the phone and posing as someone else in order to incriminate him also is. The retards of this board are just showing their true nature.

[Drake Tungsten]

No one is "posing as someone else in order to incriminate him". Get your facts straight.

[Fake Boris]

From the OP:

Currently, the NRCC has launched an operation to robocall voters in many close elections, and pretend to be calling from the Democratic campaign.

Do you have any source to invalidate the claim?

[Drake Tungsten]

Some of the automated calls begin with messages that suggest they might be from the Hodes campaign: "Hello, I'm calling with information about Paul Hodes." The calls then proceed to give negative information about Hodes on various issues - such as taxes and the prescription drug program known as Medicare - before disclosing that they were paid for by the NRCC. But many people hang up after the first line, believing they've been called by the Hodes camp, said Reid Cherlin, a spokesman for Hodes.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061105/REPOSITORY/611050397

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Can someone please explain how this helps the GOP and why Dem supporters are agog over its use?

I mean for Chris sakes you get repeat phone calls isn't the naturual inclination a vote against the GOP?

Sorry, Drake I don't buy repeat/nuisance calls as being effective. A phone dialier calling a broad swath of potential voters yes, but repeat callings nope that hurts.

Case and Point

Course I wouldn't put it past some infiltrated Dem to pull a programming 'glitch'.

[Ramo]

Because most people aren't going to listen to the message past "Hello, I'm calling with information about Paul Hodes."

Infiltrated Dem?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Ramo
Because most people aren't going to listen to the message past "Hello, I'm calling with information about Paul Hodes."

Apparently John Sherill did.

But please continue your whining about how this is unfair. It would make sense for the GOP to stop and desist such an inane practice that turns away voters.

On the other hand, there are actual indictments on the Dem side of the house for less than honest tactics.

Is there any depth of depravity that Dems won't sink to?

WSJ

The Acorn Indictments
November 3, 2006; Page A10

So, less than a week before the midterm elections, four workers from Acorn, the liberal activist group that has registered millions of voters, have been indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board. But hey, who needs voter ID laws?

We wish this were an aberration, but allegations of fraud have tainted Acorn voter drives across the country. Acorn workers have been convicted in Wisconsin and Colorado, and investigations are still under way in Ohio, Tennessee and Pennsylvania.

The good news for anyone who cares about voter integrity is that the Justice Department finally seems poised to connect these dots instead of dismissing such revelations as the work of a few yahoos. After the federal indictments were handed up in Kansas City this week, the U.S. Attorney's office said in a statement that "This national investigation is very much ongoing."

Let's hope so. Acorn officials bill themselves as nonpartisan community organizers merely interested in giving a voice to minorities and the poor. In reality, Acorn is a union-backed, multimillion-dollar outfit that uses intimidation and other tactics to push for higher minimum wage mandates and to trash Wal-Mart and other non-union companies.

Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), Acorn pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party. As part of the Fannie Mae reform bill, House Democrats pushed an "affordable housing trust fund" designed to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac profits to subsidize Acorn, among other groups. A version of this trust fund actually passed the Republican House and will surely be on the agenda again next year.

Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained Acorn's practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.

"You have to wonder what's the point of that, if not to overwhelm the system and get phony registrations on the voter rolls," says Thor Hearne of the American Center for Voting Rights, who also testified at the hearing. "These were Democratic officials saying that they felt their election system in Ohio was under assault by these kinds of efforts to game the system."

Given this history, it's not surprising that Acorn is so hostile to voter identification laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls. In Missouri last month, the state Supreme Court held that a photo ID requirement to vote was overly burdensome and a violation of the state constitution. Acorn was behind the original suit challenging the statute, and it has brought similar challenges in several other states, including Ohio.

A recent Pew Research Center survey found that blacks today are almost twice as likely as they were in 2004 to say they have little or no confidence in the voting system. Such a finding would seem like a powerful argument for voter ID laws, which consistently poll well among people of all races and incomes and would increase confidence in the voting process. Of course, voter ID laws would also cut down on fraud, which, judging from the latest indictments, would put a real crimp in Acorn's style."

[Ramo]

Apparently John Sherill did.

Very good, how clever of you to catch the distinction between "most" and "all."

if you want actual indictments, see i.e. the 2002 NH GOP phone jamming scandal. That practically bankrupted the state party. Hopefully, this'll bankrupt the NRCC.

[rah]

All campaigning should be outlawed. When you go to vote you should be handed information from each party and then go into vote. And the information should be limited to how they stand on issues (backed up by voting roll calls) So those that want to stay uninformed can just skip the reading, and those that want information will have it when they need it.

I like this concept most because it would favor those without a voting record. Unless they actually have a good voting record

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ramo
rediculous

You keep using that word. I don't think you know how to spell it.

[Drake Tungsten]

[Kuciwalker]

There is no way this should be illegal. Frankly, Ramo, I think you're letting your outrage compromise your principles.

[Fake Boris]

I've never had a call from a political party that didn't clearly and unambiguously identify its origin in the first sentence. Sorry for you guys that your mockracy has been used to different standards.

[Garth Vader]

Originally posted by rah
All campaigning should be outlawed. When you go to vote you should be handed information from each party and then go into vote. And the information should be limited to how they stand on issues (backed up by voting roll calls) So those that want to stay uninformed can just skip the reading, and those that want information will have it when they need it.

I like this concept most because it would favor those without a voting record. Unless they actually have a good voting record

That's a great idea. That wouldn't cost anything either, that should take a bunch of corruption out.

[Drake Tungsten]

I've never had a call from a political party that didn't clearly and unambiguously identify its origin in the first sentence. Sorry for you guys that your mockracy has been used to different standards.

So you're admitting you were wrong, then?