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  • F-117A retiring. A world mourns.

    Stealth jet quietly slips into history
    F-117A fighter retired after 25 years

    Cutting-edge design cloaked in mystery
    Nov. 2, 2006. 05:42 AM
    BILL TAYLOR
    FEATURE WRITER

    Almost as furtively as it flew above war zones from Bosnia to Baghdad, America's F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter has retired from active duty.

    The years had snuck up on it. Though it remained cutting-edge contemporary in many people's minds, the Nighthawk had hit the quarter-century mark. At a discreet "Silver Stealth" ceremony at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico this week, some of the people who built, serviced and flew the plane marked the end of its 25-year career.

    Much of the F-117A's innermost workings remain top-secret but it was outstripped by newer, even more space-age technology. All that remained was its public image. Its successor, the F-22 Raptor, appeared on the last day of the Canadian International Air Show in Toronto in September, its first foray outside the United States. The Raptor looks more like a conventional jet than the F-117A and didn't cause much excitement, other than among hard-core aviation buffs. When the Nighthawk made its Toronto debut in 1993, as it whispered over Ontario Place the crowd went crazy, pointing and yelling, "Stealth! Stealth!"

    With its odd shape — awkward angles calculated to baffle enemy radar — the Nighthawk hardly looked like a plane at all; more like a prop from a sci-fi TV show or something you'd fold from paper and then complain because it didn't fly.

    But fly it most certainly did. Gen. Lloyd "Fig" Newton, one of the first F-117A pilots, said it had "capabilities that had never been known before," American Forces Press Service reported. "If we needed the door kicked in, the stealth was the one to do it."

    The Nighthawk entered service in 1982. It could slither through the most sophisticated radar on bombing missions that left survivors literally not knowing what had hit them. It flew over Bosnia, Panama, Iraq — the only plane to attack downtown Baghdad — and Afghanistan and "reshaped how the air force looked at strategic warfare," said Lt.-Col. Chris Knehans, commander of the 7th Fighter Squadron at Holloman.

    It was a "decapitation strike" by stealth fighters on Baghdad in March 2003 that began the war on Iraq.

    The F-117A was referred to as a fighter, though its main roles were bombing and reconnaissance. It wasn't particularly fast, not quite able to break the sound barrier. But no one ever managed to shoot it down.

    The twin-engine plane was rushed into being. It made its first flight June 18, 1981, after only 31 months in development. There were reportedly 55 built, the last being delivered in 1990. In 1992, Nighthawks flew non-stop from Holloman to Kuwait, an 18-hour flight that remains a record for single-seat fighters.

    Paul Cabot, curator of the Toronto Aerospace Museum, said the fact that the F-117A has lasted 25 years shows how combat aviation has changed from the 1960s, when aircraft designs had a much shorter shelf life.

    "Planes now are designed to be the deliverer of weapons and not the weapon itself," he said. "They can stand off and deliver a weapon from a distance so they don't see all that much of battle. There have been developments in radar so maybe the F-117A had started showing up. That's something we won't be told."






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  • #2
    A fine piece of technological engineering.

    Last week I was talking to a guy whose father was a mechanic on the plane at Edwards Air Force Base. He said that the mechanics hated working on it because something would always break.

    Once upon a time, I worked with the past program manager for the plane at Lockheed's Skunk Works.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      Re: F-117A retiring. A world mourns.

      But no one ever managed to shoot it down.

      Except the one that was shot down by Serbian AA with a Soviet-made SA-3 Goa surface-to-air missile.



      Or did it just bump into a 'Stealth Hill'?

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      • #4
        I had the same thought...

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        • #5
          Yeah, it was a 1960s-era SAM system, too.
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          AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
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          DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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          • #6
            Compared to a lot of planes in service today 25 years isn't long..

            JM
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            • #7
              Never thought It´s already this old. Its definitely a fine plane.

              But yes, looks like the greates danger for the Stealth fighters aren´t the high frequenye hightech radars, but rather the older radar devices which use lower frequencies.
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              • #8
                Real-life Spearman-beats-Tank!

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                • #9
                  Of course, to build it they used stolen UFO technology.
                  Blah

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                  • #10
                    Wikipedia

                    One F-117 has been lost in combat, to Serbian/Yugoslav forces. On March 27, 1999, during the Kosovo War, the 3rd Battalion of the 250th Missile Brigade under the command of Colonel Zoltán Dani, equipped with the Isayev S-125 'Neva-M' (NATO designation SA-3 'Goa'), downed F-117A serial number 82-806 with a Neva-M missile. According to Wesley Clark and other NATO generals, Yugoslav air defenses found that they could detect F-117s with their "obsolete" Soviet radars operating on long wavelengths. This, combined with the loss of stealth when the jets got wet or opened their bomb bays, made them visible on radar screens. The pilot survived and was later rescued by NATO forces. However, the wreckage of the F-117 was not promptly bombed, and the Serbs are believed to have invited Russian personnel to inspect the remains, inevitably compromising the US stealth technology.[9]

                    The SAMs were most likely guided manually with the help of thermal imagers and laser rangefinders included in the Pechora-M variant of the SA-3s believed to have been used. It is unlikely that the radar could have gotten a solid track on the F-117 for more than a very short time, which would have not be enough to launch and guide an SA-3 to the target. Reportedly several SA-3s were launched, one of which must have exploded close enough to the F-117A to force the pilot to eject. According to an interview, Zoltán Dani was able to keep most of his missile sites intact and had a number of spotters spread out looking for F-117s and other aircraft. Zoltán and his missile crews guessed the flight paths of earlier F-117As from occasional visual and radar spottings and judging from this information and what target had just been bombed, Zoltan and his missile battery determined the probable flight path of F-117A #82-806. His missile crews and spotters were then able to locate it and fire their missiles. Zoltán also claims to have modified his radars to better detect the F-117A, but he has not disclosed what was changed. Parts of the shot-down aircraft are now presented to the public in the Museum of Yugoslav Aviation in Belgrade.
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                    • #11

                      Zoltán and his missile crews guessed the flight paths of earlier F-117As from occasional visual and radar spottings and judging from this information and what target had just been bombed, Zoltan and his missile battery determined the probable flight path of F-117A #82-806.
                      flying the exact same path over and over again compromises stealth.

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                      • #12
                        So it's probably fair to say that the reason for the retirement, and the reason for the lie in the article are related.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jon Miller
                          Compared to a lot of planes in service today 25 years isn't long..

                          JM
                          Yeah, B-52s go back to the early 60s.
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                          • #14
                            yep

                            and F-15/F-14/F-18 are all older

                            jM
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                            • #15
                              I think it has to do with the role of the F117. As I understood it the stealth advantage should ensure that it survives missions even in very well defended areas - if that advantage is fading away for the 117 due to developments in detection tech there's no point in keeping it in service, since lots of other aircraft can do precision bombing too....
                              Blah

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