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  • #46
    Naw, they're just dope heads who want to sit around on recieving state disability payments and get high. If people want to get jobs then the unemployment rate in California is around 3.8% so there are lots of jobs out there. These people believe they can get almost the same money for sitting around and doing nothing so they just want to sit around.

    If they wanted jobs then there are tons of employers here begging for workers.
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    • #47
      yep lots of those people around , too many ...
      GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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      • #48
        When you have these many police killings in a small town, it's also bad for property values. That's one thing they dio care about. Should be interesting to see the city council scramble. One of the liberals on it is now in charge of finding a replacement to the current Neanderthal chief.

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        • #49
          no property values might go up if they shot a few more of these losers !!
          GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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          • #50
            Let's face it Eureka is a city in poor economic conditions. The median income is only $26k per year per family (California's median is $67,814) and the housing prices are around $114,000 (compared to $500,000-$1,000,000 in the prosperous parts of the state). The economy was always based on logging and fishing both of which have been in steep decline over the past 30 years and the city hasn't found a new industry to support it. It's an economic basket case or at least a city with very deep problems.

            Education levels are low (85% have a high school diploma or less), crime rates are surprisingly high for such a small city, and they're are not enough police to really control the situation. I could see why the cops would be having a hard time dealing with this. That the city is in Humbolt where the hippies all have an anti-authority blame the cops for everything mentality just makes things worse. Don't point a gun at a cop and he doesn't shoot you. Pretty simple really. Don't try to get into fist fights with the cops and they won't mace you. Act like a normal civilized person instead of cursing at them and maybe they might be nicer to you.

            I follow those rules and have never had a problem with cops. Not even when I was in Eureka.

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            • #51
              Property values depend on the opions of people who live there, not some fantasy of yours. http://www.times-standard.com/fastse...lts/ci_4818616 I suggest you hit the "comments" link.

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              • #52
                actually no property values depend on the buyers interest not the Sellers. The people who live there are the sellers.

                If i want to move there cause it a nice place i pay lots of money, if it a lousy place to live i want buy there, thereby causing a drop in demnad and thereby casuing a drop in prices..

                its al lthere is to market analysis,

                Demand Creates Price.
                GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by realpolitic
                  Property values depend on the opions of people who live there, not some fantasy of yours. http://www.times-standard.com/fastse...lts/ci_4818616 I suggest you hit the "comments" link.
                  I was quoting the Eureka city profile info. It's a few years old but still valid for a ball park comparision. I provided a link.
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                  • #54
                    al lgood points
                    GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                    • #55
                      The Chief is right about most of Eureka's "clean and sober" houses. They're on the "honor system", no oversight. Thet get 3 people to a bedroom, at $300 each, almost twice the going rate, probably with federal subsidies. Here you basically have 2 choices in clean and sober housing, a house that uses heroin, or one that uses meth.


                      Around 2004, Eureka's city council seems to have shifted to a "toughlove" approach, which is also failing, partly because no one has any faith in the system.In 2004,Eureka increased it's police departmant. Drug ODs have remained constant, these shootings may because of increased tensions. In 2005,they built a shelter (The Multiple Assistance Center), which initially had so much demand they got non addicted homeless. It was notorious for having people break down and get sent to the psych ward, after about 4 months, it was attracting mainly addicts. It's nasty manager flew the coop Nov 2006, and the exec director of the whole non profit, who has a repution as a money grabber left six months ago. It seems to be in the hands of sane people now.

                      Harpham's appointment seems to be the last gasp of the toughlove attitude of the city council (I started going to meetings last Febuary). It seems like they'll be taking a more balanced approach, dealing with the homeless by diagnsis, and sorting them out. One mistake they made was trying to force Willets-type stoners to change through work, they don't have jobs, and they used attack practes to break people down, which made them vulnerable to hard drug dealers, as well as more rebelious. To get someone off hard drugs, they need to see there's something better. Attempts to create that attitude on my part as a mental health counselor, as well as others,ran into beurocracy, scapegoating, until "budget cuts" made it impossible.

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                      • #56
                        I see. So in your opinion the city is attacking people in order to break them down and increase drug use. Forgive me if I am sceptical.
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                        • #57
                          Not intentionally. The clean and sober houses are corrupt, but they were also a way of increasing housing density w/o adding seweres, power lines etc. The city council says adding infrastructure is expensive. Malice, IF ANY, would have only been caused by corruption, not to intentionally increase drug use. Whether they were intended that way by the govt is not my contention, yea or nay. The toughlove approach isn't working here is, stats corroborate it. My post is there to offer an explaination of why its gone awry.

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                          • #58
                            George Bush may be the great alienator, but Eureka's Neanderthal Police chief gives him a run for his money

                            Thinks it's funny to throw fake urine in someone's face.

                            He almost kills someone, but his only concern is about his carreer.

                            His partner convinces a woman to hit her husband with a baseball bat

                            His son rides a horse into a bar

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                            • #59
                              Based solely on the information provided up to this point regarding the teen, there is nothing that indicates any wrong doing on the part of police.
                              Shooting a kid several times in the chest regardless of whether or not he was holding a knife is excessive

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by realpolitic
                                His partner convinces a woman to hit her husband with a baseball bat
                                That one I have no problem with.
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