Shed a tear for the Europeans

[Spiffor]

Re: Shed a tear for the Europeans

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
this so-called "Energy Charter" is just another attempt by Europe to live by the fiction that Russia is weak and can be dominated as to make it a vassal of western interests.

You understand absolutely nothing about Europe. The Energy Charter is barely a geopolitical document. It's meant for business.

The EU is fanatically devoted to private businesses, and tries to destroy all state monopolies within. It also tries to destroy state monopolies abroad, where it could bring money to European businesses. Duh.

I'm very happy that Russia didn't sign the Energy Charter, and will keep its sovereignty over its natural resources, Russia's most precious economic asset at the moment There's absolutely no reason that a country like Russia, which is technically and financially able to invest in its energy sector, has to give its natural resources to private interests

[dannubis]

Commie thinking...

Russia in your context is Putin and his surroundings. Just like it was 20 years ago, when Russia was the party secretary and his minions.

Now, I could care less about what Russia thinks. If they fail to prove they are a thrustworthy energy supplier, we get it somewhere else no ?

So I really would like to see the Commission tell Russia to piss off. For once have some balls.

[Saras]

what did you do to dannubis?

[dannubis]

What do you mean ?

I have never been a communist and I never will be. I don't believe in its base premise that an individual will put the good of society above its own well being.

This does however not mean that the weak in the society should not be protected. By not signing this deal Putin looks after the interests of himself and his rich friends. In Russia, the common man does not benefit from this action and in Europe the poorer will have to pay more for their heathing in winter due to the increased uncertainty over the supply.

So a win-win I would say...

And the growing of balls part is just something in general that I desire very much: a central governement that for once takes care of its people and not of its "interests."

[BeBMan]

Hey Tass, long time no medical thread, eh?

[Nubclear]

lol

[Dinner]

Wow. A thug mouthed off about how he didn't want people talking about how he was a thug.

[Arrian]

Pretty much. But the thug has a lotta leverage, so deal with the thug they must.

-Arrian

[Colon™]

Hmm the Comrade brings up an interesting issue: does Russia exist? As menioned previously, most Belgians don't believe in Russia, but others may beg to differ.

[Nubclear]

lol

[Cort Haus]

Good for Putin. It's about time someone told these smug, self-righteous, hypocritical tossers where to shove it.

Europe is used to treating many of the smaller eastern states as vassals, and it expects to be able to do the same now with Russia.

Oh, and VJ

[Winston]

Yes, he's almost as unsociable as Putin sometimes, isn't he?

[Eroberer]

Isn't "backwards" a Russian word?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


Because the West has a certain history wrt its relations with Russia that provoke some within Russia to question the intentions of the US and the states that it signs military treaties with. Why do they need military bases in these areas? Is it to just humiliate Russia? Does the West have other intentions?

It couldnt just possibly have to do with the fact that those bases are needed for access to Afghanistan? I mean you did notice that we got acces to those bases right after 9/11, and that we went to Russia for permission? (DESPITE the nominal independence of the Central Asian states)

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Good for Putin. It's about time someone told these smug, self-righteous, hypocritical tossers where to shove it.

Europe is used to treating many of the smaller eastern states as vassals, and it expects to be able to do the same now with Russia.

Oh, and VJ

Treating the smaller eastern european states as vassals - hmm, I wonder what those smaller eastern european states think? Didnt they run to the EU and to NATO, at least in part out of dislike of their eastern neighbors enlightened views of soveriegnty? (Serbia is the exception)