Head of British Army: "We should get out sometime soon"

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Just divide the country in 3

That certainly appears to be the trend. Dividing the middle part is going to be particularly tragic because Shiites and Sunnis are so thoroughly intermixed geographically. No matter what I think a catastrophe approximating the scale of human life wastage which occurred during the partition of British India is likely in the future.

[RGBVideo]

That certainly appears to be the trend. Dividing the middle part is going to be particularly tragic because Shiites and Sunnis are so thoroughly intermixed geographically.

If the powers that decide what'll happen are going to imitate the way how WW2 was won, the obvious solution would be to divide the ethnic groups by force to two separate areas... As a well-known statesman said in a public speech about ethnically non-unified areas of western Poland where Poles and Germans were living together: "Expulsion is the method which, insofar as we have been able to see, will be the most satisfactory and lasting. There will be no mixture of populations to cause endless trouble... A clean sweep will be made."

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by VJ

If the powers that decide what'll happen are going to imitate the way how WW2 was won, the obvious solution would be to divide the ethnic groups by force to two separate areas... As a well-known statesman said in a public speech about ethnically non-unified areas of western Poland where Poles and Germans were living together: "Expulsion is the method which, insofar as we have been able to see, will be the most satisfactory and lasting. There will be no mixture of populations to cause endless trouble... A clean sweep will be made."

Ethnic cleansing as a solution for Iraq? Wow. Why didn't anyone think of that when Yugoslavia broke up?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


That certainly appears to be the trend. Dividing the middle part is going to be particularly tragic because Shiites and Sunnis are so thoroughly intermixed geographically. No matter what I think a catastrophe approximating the scale of human life wastage which occurred during the partition of British India is likely in the future.

The three most significant powers around Iraq (Iran, KSA, Turkey) all oppose a partition of Iraq. Two of them are close US allies, and a breakup of Iraq strenghtens Irans position, which is why the US will never have as its policy partition, and why it pushes instead for Federalism, to appease the forces that would tear Iraq fully apart without actually letting it fall apart and totally throwing into chaos the power balance in the region.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Ethnic cleansing as a solution for Iraq? Wow. Why didn't anyone think of that when Yugoslavia broke up?

Americans consider South Slavs "white" while Iraqis are just "them brown people."

[Solly]

Originally posted by Havak


Rather meaningless 3.5 years away from the next General Election don't you think.

Plenty of time for the all PR no substance Tory bandwagon to break down.

Not sure how it is relevant either since 'Call me Dave' Cameron supports the troops being in Iraq.

The day a Tory administration pulls British forces out of a theatre the US has requested we commit to with them we really will know that Hell has finally frozen over

I was referring to the results from the last General Election.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Havak
Not sure how it is relevant either since 'Call me Dave' Cameron supports the troops being in Iraq.

I like this one, considering how Anthony Blair refers to himself

[FrostyBoy]

Destroy all the mosques, temples, churches down. Forbid teaching of any form of religion.

Enforce the education of Evolution, genetics, thermodynamics, etc.

Then, they will have no reason to kill each other.

[Havak]

Well at least Oliver and Gordon show some decorum in not shortening their names. Tony of course referred to himself as that before being elected leader of the labour party whereas ‘Dave’ was elected as David Cameron until his spin advisors told him that ‘Dave’ would connect with the youth (and lets face it apart from Iain is anyone in the Tory party under 65?).

You cannot trust Tories – they habitually lie.

Witness the results (share of votes cast) of the 2005 General Election

Labour 35.3%
Conservative 32.3%
Lib Dems 22.1%
Others 10.3%

So tell me again – who has the popular majority from the 2005 UK Parliamentary elections?

[Pekka]

I think it's fair to notice that all the other countries that got out in the last couple of years got bad rap, public disrespecting and name calling. They were 'unreliable' and bend in for the terrorists according to the claims.

[Solly]

Originally posted by Havak
Well at least Oliver and Gordon show some decorum in not shortening their names. Tony of course referred to himself as that before being elected leader of the labour party whereas ‘Dave’ was elected as David Cameron until his spin advisors told him that ‘Dave’ would connect with the youth (and lets face it apart from Iain is anyone in the Tory party under 65?).

You cannot trust Tories – they habitually lie.

Witness the results (share of votes cast) of the 2005 General Election

Labour 35.3%
Conservative 32.3%
Lib Dems 22.1%
Others 10.3%

So tell me again – who has the popular majority from the 2005 UK Parliamentary elections?

Post the results for England alone.

[Solly]

fyi

Originally posted by Park Avenue
"England decides to re-elect Blair"

The Tories have the popular majority in England.

[RGBVideo]

Originally posted by Havak
Well at least Oliver and Gordon show some decorum in not shortening their names. Tony of course referred to himself as that before being elected leader of the labour party whereas ‘Dave’ was elected as David Cameron until his spin advisors told him that ‘Dave’ would connect with the youth (and lets face it apart from Iain is anyone in the Tory party under 65?).

You cannot trust Tories – they habitually lie.

Witness the results (share of votes cast) of the 2005 General Election

Labour 35.3%
Conservative 32.3%
Lib Dems 22.1%
Others 10.3%

So tell me again – who has the popular majority from the 2005 UK Parliamentary elections?

Think about what you read before allowing your thoughts to be completely conquered by your self-congratulating knee-jerk reaction. It'll open many new worldviews in life.

"England decides to re-elect Blair"

The Tories have the popular majority in England.

Blair apparently 'agrees' with the general.

Words, aimed at suckers. Action is what matters.

Originally posted by Sn00py
Destroy all the mosques, temples, churches down. Forbid teaching of any form of religion.

Enforce the education of Evolution, genetics, thermodynamics, etc.

Then, they will have no reason to kill each other.

Islamophobe

[Az]

Islamophobe

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by GePap


The three most significant powers around Iraq (Iran, KSA, Turkey) all oppose a partition of Iraq. Two of them are close US allies, and a breakup of Iraq strenghtens Irans position, which is why the US will never have as its policy partition, and why it pushes instead for Federalism, to appease the forces that would tear Iraq fully apart without actually letting it fall apart and totally throwing into chaos the power balance in the region.

I don't think that anyone wants to have their forces deployed in Iraq for a decade or more. Face it, the Sunnis have subjugated the Shiites so long that they can't conceive of them as equals, nor will they forgive them for being the majority. It would be like asking post-Civil War white Mississippians to accept black rule. The Shiites have been oppressed too long by the Sunnis to forgive them. There simply isn't any solution other than partition. The Sunnis are going to be really pissed when they find out how small their part of the country is.