I lament for my generation . . . . . . . .

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Spec


Planet earth is not a game JM. At the point were we are, you wont get any bonus from it.

Spec.

Population growth is just a good thing. It expands the possibilities, and provides the drive for advancement.

JM

[Lorizael]

Spec:

I don't actually know specific pollution information for those countries, but I'll grant that it's probably true.

But consider.

Total population of India: 1.1 billion
Total population of those three random countries: 52.4 million

You can't really compare them.

[LordShiva]

Guess which country is the 4th worst polluter in terms of CO2 per capita?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_per_cap-pollution-carbon-dioxide-per-capita

[BeBMan]

Hey, posting real info is unfair!

[Cort Haus]

Re: I lament for my generation . . . . . . . .

Originally posted by aneeshm
There is no fire in their belly . They have no constructive goal in life , no driving force , no desire to leave a mark on history , to even be part of something which will leave a mark on history . They have no desire for immortality .

Seeing as the social class you are lamenting is to a large extent westernised, I would suggest that what you are witnessing is a malaise and lack of self-confidence in the western world generally.

For example, people are de-politicised to the extent of cynicism, and of those remaining interested, so few have the sanitised, squeeky-clean personal lives that are demanded, that they dare not run for office because of fear of some scandal.

I can't speak for India, but I see too many people who measure achievement by a sign on the door, or a job title, or a salary level, rather than actually doing something that made a genuine difference. People feel entitled to the esteem of success as if it was some kind of 'human right' rather than something to actually work for and earn.

I do worry that these days there's a tendancy to quit a difficult task at the first sign of getting "stressed out" by it. I wonder if that is the lack of backbone you are referring to.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


Population growth is just a good thing. It expands the possibilities, and provides the drive for advancement.

JM

Progressive stuff, JM. Not a hint of Malthusianism in sight.

[LordShiva]

I'm interested in finding those examples of wonderful infrastructure that aneeshm thinks our older generation built for us (the ones we're taking apart bit by bit).

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Guess which country is the 4th worst polluter in terms of CO2 per capita?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...ide-per-capita

Awesome.

[BeBMan]

Re: Re: I lament for my generation . . . . . . . .

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Seeing as the social class you are lamenting is to a large extent westernised, I would suggest that what you are witnessing is a malaise and lack of self-confidence in the western world generally.

For example, people are de-politicised to the extent of cynicism, and of those remaining interested, so few have the sanitised, squeeky-clean personal lives that are demanded, that they dare not run for office because of fear of some scandal.

I admit I sometimes feel the same, but I also ask myself if that isn't the same kind of feelings and complaints you find throughout history in various forms (o tempora! o mores!)

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Spec
...Nigeria...

Oh, and this is really pissing me off. I said Niger, not Nigeria.

[Spec]

Originally posted by LordShiva


I won't comment on this statement made by you

Call me and you'll understand pretty well what I'm saying. I talk better than I write, I practicaly have no accent. In india, they cant even understand themselfs.

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


Population growth is just a good thing. It expands the possibilities, and provides the drive for advancement.

JM

And consumes the ressources we have much faster, like water and air for example. We dont have the drive to protect our enviroment right now, imagine later.

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Lorizael
Spec:

I don't actually know specific pollution information for those countries, but I'll grant that it's probably true.

But consider.

Total population of India: 1.1 billion
Total population of those three random countries: 52.4 million

You can't really compare them.

Hum hum, you brang those up may I remind you.

Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Guess which country is the 4th worst polluter in terms of CO2 per capita?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...ide-per-capita

Dude, that's just for carbon dioxide...

Why dont you take the whole picture. Like for chromium for the leather industry, CFC gas, coal plants, nuclear waste...

Posting links that suit you just to get an edge without taking the whole picture into consideration is not really convincing.

Try again.

Spec.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Spec
Hum hum, you brang those up may I remind you.

Spec.

I brang those up to show that there were other countries contributing far more to the population problem than India. And in terms of percentages, that's absolutely true.

You wanted to compare total output of pollution. Of course a country with twenty times the population as those three countries is going to pollute more in gross figures.

But anyways. Would you care to present actual statistics showing that India is one of the worst polluters?