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[GePap]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


I don't give a damn, I just don't have a very high opinion of [the value of] modern philosophy.

Who cares about your opinion?

I think LS and Aviso have nicely laid out the point that science is an offshoot and branch of philosophy.

That a positivist like yourself is partisan against other branches of philosophy is rather irrelevant to the point, no?

[Kuciwalker]

Who cares about your opinion?

Back at you.

I think LS and Aviso have nicely laid out the point that science is an offshoot and branch of philosophy.

I've never disputed that - though as a branch of philosophy it can stand pretty much on its own, now. We don't need the rest.

That a positivist like yourself is partisan against other branches of philosophy is rather irrelevant to the point, no?

I just find them rather pointless in comparison to other fields of study.

(Pointless as in they stand to actually benefit mankind a lot less.)

[GePap]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I've never disputed that - though as a branch of philosophy it can stand pretty much on its own, now. We don't need the rest.

NO branch of philosophy "needs the rest" of the branches. It does need the basic roots though.

[Kuciwalker]

NO branch of philosophy "needs the rest" of the branches.

Ok.

[_BuRjaCi_]

Philosphy can be defined in several ways:
The classic view is that philosophy is close to science and uses reason,logic and should attempt objectivity. It should study the most general things (i.e. everything) or it should study man (as suggested by some philosphers in the last 200 years)
The other popular view is that phliosophy is in nature much closer to art than to science that it is similar to poetry or moder art in a sense. It is philosophy pour philosphy to parafraze.

[Terra Nullius]

Originally posted by Spec
I wanna see the day where philosophy cures cancer before science.

Spec.

Ask and ye shall recieve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Hay

Much of Hay's writing focuses on the metaphysics of the human mind and body, particularly the relationship between "dis-ease" in the mind and disease in the body.

Her two most well known books ... directly associate physical problems such as cancer with specific negative emotional patterns, and make the controversial claim that healing the emotional components will also heal the physical conditions.

[Proteus_MST]

Both, definitely

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Terra Nullius

Ask and ye shall recieve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Hay

Much of Hay's writing focuses on the metaphysics of the human mind and body, particularly the relationship between "dis-ease" in the mind and disease in the body.

Her two most well known books ... directly associate physical problems such as cancer with specific negative emotional patterns, and make the controversial claim that healing the emotional components will also heal the physical conditions.

Sounds more like a psychologist than like a philosopher
(there´s btw. even a branch of psychology called "Psychoneuroimmunology" which focuses on the relationship between mind and immune system)

[Terra Nullius]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
Sounds more like a psychologist than like a philosopher

True.

But then Spec asked for a "philosophy", not a philosopher.

(there´s btw. even a branch of psychology called "Psychoneuroimmunology" which focuses on the relationship between mind and immune system)

Why specifically the immune system?

[Pekka]

Time is only the proof of advance that will guarantee me millions of dollars.. kind of like pain reminds that you're alive.. time reminds that I'm on track. It's just a tool to follow my strategy unfolding its results.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
there´s btw. even a branch of psychology called "Psychoneuroimmunology" which focuses on the relationship between mind and immune system)

There's also something called neurophilosophy which means (surprise) the interdisciplinary study of neuroscience and philosophy because they share some fields of interest (the free will yes/no thing for example)

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Terra Nullius

(there´s btw. even a branch of psychology called "Psychoneuroimmunology" which focuses on the relationship between mind and immune system)

Why specifically the immune system?

Because there were clinical studies which showed that there is a connection between both of them, for example enabling patients with visualization techniques to better combat diseases (or on the opposite, making treatment of diseases less successful if people don´t believe in the effectivity of a therapy or don´t get the necessary psychological support, but are just treated like a defective machine by the doctors).

This, the fact that it is separated enough from the other branches of psychology (especially as ist is very interdiscplipinary) and the strong public interest in the topic (as everything which has to do with medicine) has led to the establishment of PNI as a separate branch of psychology.

One of the further results of PNI so far is for example that colored pills are better than white pills (because people subconsciously seem to believe that colored pills are more effective) and that there are strong indices that mental techniques (like visualization) can help in the combat against cancer (and that certain psychological stressors can lead to a higher probability for getting cancer or diseases)