What do you want?  Mr Fun makes a comment that we're losing jobs.  It seems fair to correct the falsehood.
							
						
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 I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
 
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 So job growth last year just about kept pace with population growth?
 
 Spectacular.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
 Stadtluft Macht Frei
 Killing it is the new killing it
 Ultima Ratio Regum
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 We are losing manufacturing jobs at a record pace. Those manufacturing jobs average much better pay then the services jobs which you keep talking about.Last edited by Dinner; September 15, 2006, 18:39.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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 It's not spectacular. But 1.7 million new jobs over the last year is nowhere near "less jobs."Originally posted by KrazyHorse
 So job growth last year just about kept pace with population growth?
 
 Spectacular.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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 Neither is this true. We have more manufacturing jobs now than a year ago.Originally posted by Oerdin
 We are losing manufacturing jobs at a record pace.
 
 You guys say whatever pops into your heads without verifying that it's true.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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 I believe your service job pays better than most manufacturing jobs.Originally posted by Oerdin
 We are losing manufacturing jobs at a record pace. Those manufacturing jobs average much better pay then the services jobs which you keep talking about.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
 
 ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
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 My sevice sector job pays well mostly because there are damn few Americans willing to do the hard work to get a science degree. There are good paying service sector jobs but my point is on average service sector jobs pay worse then manufacturing jobs once equalized for education.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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 Not likely. More likely they will find jobs outside of the automotive sector.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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 Ford and GM have too many models. They have less R&D dollars than Toyota and yet have to spread them over a much bigger range of models. The end result: very few models are winners.Originally posted by atawa
 Couldnt they just make better cars?
 
 In the late 90s when oil got really cheap,Ford and GM's clueless management thought this would go on forever while the Japanese focused on developing the hybrids. 8-10 years later, they get to reap the harvest.
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 Yes, indeed. For the manufactring sector of many parts of the country, it's terrible. Not just Texas. Michagan has...I believe a senatorial race going. Political commercials fly about one that is said to have sent jobs overseas, but this candidate never has done it, and a denial ensues. It isn't local, and a service nation can not maintain what the U.S. has become.Originally posted by Oerdin
 We are losing manufacturing jobs at a record pace. Those manufacturing jobs average much better pay then the services jobs which you keep talking about.Last edited by SlowwHand; September 15, 2006, 21:50.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
 "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
 He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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 Did they kill the St. Thomas plant?
 
 My uncle may be out of a job..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
 Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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 BTW just because I disagree with the degree of which the world is flat's author believe's the world is flat doesn't mean I haven't taken it to heart. I have deliberately choosen a field not subject to foreign competition which cannot be easily outsourced due to the nature of the work.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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 It still has a market cap less then Harley-Davidson. The reason being they have huge legancy costs associated with retired employees.Originally posted by One_more_turn
 Interestingly, GM is by far the best performing Dow stock this year: up 70% YTD.
 
 The big three's man problem is the management culture which lives for next quarter instead of thinking several years out. This is what lead them to concentrate solely on SUVs and trucks while ignoring their car lines. Thus when market conditions changed from trucks to cars they were stuck flat footed.
 
 Also GM most certainly does spend more on RND then Toyota but the average is indeed less due to GM's RND being spread out over something like 11 or 12 brands.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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