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US House canidate from MN set be become first Muslim congressman
Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Oh lord, an anti-war Muslim Democrat? Conservatives are gonna make hay out of this...
Why? He's in a district the Republicans have no shot at picking up. I think the bigger news is that he'd be the first minority from MN period to become a Congressman. Way to join the 21st Century!
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Originally posted by Oerdin
He appears to be a convert. I have to admit I think it is regressive for other wise left leaning people to turn into hippies who think nonwestern religions are some how better then western religions like Christianity or Judaism. It's the same crap in a new can.
I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
Maybe not, but it's not one of those "nonwestern religions" that are seen by "hippies" as "better then western religions like Christianity or Judaism" either (as Oerdin seems to think). [/QUOTE]
The Greeks did form the basis of western civilization if for no other reason then the Romans agreed that their civilization was nothin but an offshoot of the Greek and most western civil institution were last based upon including the medieval parlements which Odin spoke about. The middle east used to be very Greek in culure but that ended around 700 AD.
today it is only Europe and societies decended from Europe whicvh are truly western though, due to colonalism , there are many western influenced nations spread around the world.
Originally posted by Xorbon
Maybe not, but it's not one of those "nonwestern religions" that are seen by "hippies" as "better then western religions like Christianity or Judaism" either (as Oerdin seems to think).
Originally posted by Xorbon
Maybe not, but it's not one of those "nonwestern religions" that are seen by "hippies" as "better then western religions like Christianity or Judaism" either (as Oerdin seems to think).
Yes 'tis. Just ask Cat Stevens.
Who's "Cat Stevens"? I'll just ask Yusuf Islam instead.
"Every time I have to make a tough decision, I ask myself, 'What would Tom Cruise do?' Then I jump up and down on the couch." - Neil Strauss
Just because their nasty, murdering, child rapist cultist of a leader was to unoriginal to come up with his own dogma that doesn't mean he was a westerner.
I disagree with Odin that secularism is a uniquely Western trait, "invented" in the enlightenment. It's unusual in the extreme where Islam holds sway, but not that uncommon in other parts of the world.
He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!
He appears to be a convert. I have to admit I think it is regressive for other wise left leaning people to turn into hippies who think nonwestern religions are some how better then western religions like Christianity or Judaism. It's the same crap in a new can.
I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
Maybe not, but it's not one of those "nonwestern religions" that are seen by "hippies" as "better then western religions like Christianity or Judaism" either (as Oerdin seems to think). [/QUOTE]
Judaism (and its offspring, Christianity) are not, by place of origin, Western religions.
All three 'began' in the Middle East, which still ain't Western, despite the efforts of secular Jews, Muslims and Christians.
Islam was also for a time a Western religion, in the Iberian peninsula, Sicily, southern Italy, the Balkans and the Peloponnese, and now thanks in part to the British Empire and in part the policies of colonialism, is again a Western religion, in places as diverse as New Jersey, Trinidad and Tobago, Bosnia, Marseille and Bradford.
I'd rather a clean Muslim family next door than a smelly bunch of crystal hugging New Age crusties with a pick'n'mix 'Eastern' faith.
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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