Chavez affirms that he is a dictator.

[Barnabas]

For sure, when he loses an election and decided he wants to stay Ill call him a dictator.

I dont like Chavez myself, what I find funny, is that idea that the poor media is opressed by Chavez, or that Chavez does not have the support of most venezuelans,

there are no good guys in this

[Dinner]

What do you think about Evo? He seems like an asshat to me who will end up making the aerage Bolivian poorer.

[Barnabas]

Oerdin, if you have time you may want to watch this documentary in googler video

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144

About the coup to chavez in 2002

[Barnabas]

I think he is very naive and innocent, and maybe not very intelligent

He does things like going to China, and when surrounded by Chinese ministers, he starts praising Mao, when China is now super capitalistic no one has followed Mao for decades.

Or he is with the presidents of Brazil and Argentina, and he starts talking about how nice democracy is and how much he likes Castro, and the presidents of Brazil tells him, but, Evo, Cuba is a dictatorship.. and evo starts talking about those local meaningless show elections in cuba to prove it is a democracy, and the other presidents can barely avoid laughing.

Evo has a minister who believes that before the spanish conquest amerindians lived 200 years, and that his grandmother lived 200 years! and that bolivians should have 8, 9 children, that population control is a white conspiracy to make the number of amerindians smaller.

I dont think he is a bad man, I think he is good, but probably naive and uneducated, I think he could hurt bolivia like that south african minister who said aids could be fought eating veggies, and putting lemon juice on the foods

[Dinner]

If you like I can pull out some 1950's vintage videos of Nasser being greeted as a hero in Egypt and around the Arab world. In the end he was still a dictatorial asshat who impoverished the richest country in the Arab world.

[VetLegion]

You just want free koka, admit it

[Dinner]

Jesus Christ that was a worthless piece of propaganda. I think a 2 year old can come up with something more even handed.

They don't even talk about how this asshat attempted to make himself the military dictator of the country before later refashioning himself as a "Bolivarian Democrat". Mark my words, like all the other nationalist dictators before him he will leave his people poorer and his nation worse off.

[Dinner]

Watching it again, it is full of factual errors. Venezuala is most certainly not the world's fourth largest oil supplier. It is the fourth largest exporting meaning that domestic demand is so low it has to export. There are several countries which produce far more oil including the US, Saudi Arabia, Canada, Russia, and likely several others like Nigeria and Indonesia. Iraq and Iran might even beat it.

That was complete propaganda crap full of factual errors and conspiracy theories.

[Barnabas]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Watching it again, it is full of factual errors. Venezuala is most certainly not the world's fourth largest oil supplier. It is the fourth largest exporting meaning that domestic demand is so low it has to export. There are several countries which produce far more oil including the US, Saudi Arabia, Canada, Russia, and likely several others like Nigeria and Indonesia. Iraq and Iran might even beat it.
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Yes, and Kerry forgot Poland

Whether Venezuela is the fourth or seventh or ninth world largest oil supplier seems to be irrelevant, dont you think?
It is not what this documentary is about.

And I will have to call you biased if you believe saying the media had a huge role in the coup against chavez is a conspiracy theory, it is pretty much a fact.

Mark my words, like all the other nationalist dictators before him he will leave his people poorer and his nation worse off.

There are no reasons why necessarily that should happen.

How do you know that? Can you read the future?

Not all nationalistic dictators have left their peaple poorer and worse off (at least from an economic point of view), from the top of my head, Francisco Franco didnt, and unlike Chavez, he was undoubtedly a bloody dictator, there are more examples.

It reminds me of the libertarians who have been saying since 1980 that swedens welfare state is about to collapse.

[techumseh]

Some pics to "affirm" that there is hope for the people of Latin America!

[techumseh]

Things are looking up!

[techumseh]

Three strikes and the Yankees are out!

[techumseh]

OMG, you're surrounded! A little nostalgia.

[Odin]

Originally posted by techumseh
OMG, you're surrounded! A little nostalgia.

OMG! WE MUST INVADE CANADA!

[techumseh]

Unfortunately, you're about 30 years to late!