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This is what I found after a quick google search:
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"One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
"If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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The point is that
sufficient gerrymandering by itself creates an unfair election.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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The situation in Venezuela is interesting. When we think of democracies, we tend to think of liberal democracies, which Venezuela clearly is no longer. But, believe it or not, there can be democracies that do not align with American liberal values."Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - ElokComment
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The two aren't equivalent?Originally posted by Oncle Boris
First you don't even provide a source for his speech. Second, has he been misquoted again? last time this was in the news, he was talking about cancelling the presidential terms limit, not rewriting a constitution that would make him president for life.
If the US Constitution were amended to remove presidential term limits you all would be going ape****.Comment
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No boy, there's a difference between allowing someone to run for an indefinite amount of terms and rewriting a constitution to make yourself dictator.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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He's just rewriting the constitution to let himself run for an unlimited number of terms so he can stay dictator.Comment
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"stay" dictator?
In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Funny stuff. I agree with Oerdin that this affirms that he is a dictator (as if we needed any confirmation). After all, if it walks like a duck...I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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...it could be a duck hunter.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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As for Chavez acting like he'd want to become dictator, I agree that there are warning signs. But claiming that he is one right now is just ridiculous.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power.
Besides, unlimited time in power is one of the traditional hallmarks of dictatorship since the Roman times. At least Sulla was virtuous in resigning his dictatorship quickly after wrapping up his dirty deeds. Chavez has no such virtues.Last edited by DanS; September 13, 2006, 11:23.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Oh yes! I wonder…what would the reaction in the US be if Shrub said:
I think the US Constitution may need to be reformed in some parts and that also the people should not be stripped of their right if they wish to re-elect a compatriot, whoever it may be—three, four, five, six times to steer the nation.
Back to Ven, the Judiciary there ALREADY gave him a pass for a third term on grounds that the old constitution was in effect when he won the first term. Now he’s just getting greedy.
First step – squelch the opposition. Second step, re-write the rules. But that’s not a dictator.
Riiiiiiight.
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@OP
If he has enough seats to change the constitution he can do whatever he wants, thats called democracy
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There are many countries where such limitations don't exist, and they seem to be democratic well enough.Originally posted by DanS
Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power.
I think you're talking about Cincinnatus.Besides, unlimited time in power is one of the traditional hallmarks of dictatorship since the Roman times. At least Sulla was virtuous in resigning his dictatorship quickly after wrapping up his dirty deeds. Chavez has no such virtues.
In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Uribe of Colombia, a US ally, did that a few months ago.Originally posted by DanS
Who besides dictators change the constitution so that they can run for another term? Honest heads of state do not have that much power.
I can't stand Chavez, and think he already is a dictator, but this doesn't prove it. If a country wants to elect its president for a third term, it should be able to.THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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