Five years later: what's the answer?

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Elok
Okay then, why do these particular poor and oppressed people become suicide bombers? Are OBL and company just really, really persuasive speakers, or do the people in question have a high Evilness ratio in their personality, or what? Or do they "hate our freedom?" I thought one of the first rules of war was to know your enemy, and that includes your enemy's motivations.

The 9/11 hijackers were neither poor nor oppressed, and generally poor and oppressed people don't have the wealth needed to make an effective threat to us.

Saying that they hate our freedom is sinning through omission. They don't just hate us because we are free.

There are enough people that buy into the death to the infidels spiel that they've been hearing their entire life in schools,mosques, and what have you.

[Jon Miller]

Has anyone watched Syriana?

JM

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Elok


It was a compound pun:

Security in the sense of national security and sexual insecurity, and
Erectile in the sense of genitals and buildings.

Maybe you already got it and I wasn't getting your reaction, but I just thought I'd make sure it was clear.

Yes, sorry.

[Arrian]

Wow. Total agreement with DinoDoc. Simply put, straight to the point, and correct, IMO.

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Whoha
They don't just hate us because we are free.

Maybe Bush meant that they hate that we are free to support Isreal and kill muslims. Things like that. I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[Zkribbler]

Re: Re: Five years later: what's the answer?

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Not widened the issue by declaring war on a tactic and settled for destroying al-Qaeda and capturing/killing thier members.

QFT

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
Has anyone watched Syriana?

JM

Yes, had some interesting things in it, but as movie I found it a little bit boring.

[Jon Miller]

It wasn't mindless entertainment like so many are..

It took me a bit to decide that I liked it.

The same is true for some good comedies. Hoodwinked was that way, as was Napolean Dynamite.

JM

[Dis]

Re: Re: Five years later: what's the answer?

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Not widened the issue by declaring war on a tactic and settled for destroying al-Qaeda and capturing/killing thier members.

I don't think it's possible to destroy Al-qaeda or kill/capture their leaders. We might get a few more, but we're stuck right now.

[DanS]

Who's to say that AQ hasn't already largely been rolled up?

[Dis]

effecively they have, as they aren't able to conduct operations at the present time. But they are still hiding out in the hills. We got them on the run, which is good.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Whoha

There are plenty of poor oppressed people in the world who don't suicide bomb anyone.

I suspect most of them don't come from oil-rich countries that can subsidize terrorism.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by DanS
Who's to say that AQ hasn't already largely been rolled up?

Where is OBL? I recall something being said about dead or alive. Why has NATO been suprised by the Taliban?

[DRoseDARs]

And who's basically controlling southern Afghanistan? Basque seperatists?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Where is OBL? I recall something being said about dead or alive. Why has NATO been suprised by the Taliban?

Surprised? The body count mounts.