Steve Irwin the Crocodile Hunter DEAD

[Wezil]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Strangely enough, pulling out the barb may have been what ultimately led to his demise (though pulling out the barb would've seemed natural/reasonable to Irwin at that instant).

I'll admit, my knowledge of stingrays is next to zilch.

That being said, what were his options?

[Lord Avalon]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Strangely enough, pulling out the barb may have been what ultimately led to his demise (though pulling out the barb would've seemed natural/reasonable to Irwin at that instant).

Perhaps, but even if he hadn't, with a venom-coated stinger in his heart, he may not have survived even if there was a hospital ship right there. I doubt he would have lasted long enough for them to get him out of the water, and for an ambulance to arrive and get him to a hospital.

[SlowwHand]

'Crocodile Hunter' exploited animals, critic says
Feminist author Greer says 'It’s no surprise that he came to grief’

Updated: 7:26 a.m. CT Sept 6, 2006

SYDNEY, Australia - Feminist academic Germaine Greer said on Wednesday she hoped the death of Australian “Crocodile Hunter” Steve Irwin would mark the end of what she called exploitative nature documentaries, a discordant note amid floods of tributes.

Irwin died in a freak diving accident off Australia’s northeast coast on Monday after he was hit in the chest by the serrated barb from a stingray’s tail.

Echoing comments she made this week in Britain’s Guardian newspaper, Australian-born Greer likened Irwin to a lion tamer and said he had intruded on the habitats of animals and treated them with “massive insensitivity.”

“It’s no surprise that he came to grief,” Greer told Nine Network television.

“We now have enough respect for lions to be embarrassed if we see someone trying to crack whips at them and wave chairs at them. Jumping all over crocodiles is the same kind of thing.”

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'Exploitation of animals'
Greer, an award-winning author, is a frequent critic of personalities like British soccer star David Beckham and social trends like reality television.

In 2003 she criticized J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy for attracting “spaced-out hippies, environmentalists, free-market libertarians, social conservatives, pacifists, new-age theosophists, sexists and racists the world over.”

Huh?

Irwin’s death has prompted outpourings of grief and sympathy from around the world, dominating local newspapers and clogging Internet news sites.

His “Crocodile Hunter” documentaries for U.S.-based television company Discovery Channel’s Animal Planet were seen by tens of millions of viewers around the world.

He became famous for flirting with death as he wrestled crocodiles, swam with sharks and handled some of the world’s deadliest snakes and spiders.

Greer said she found the Irwin phenomenon "embarrassing," although she understood the sadness at his death.

“I’m not saying that’s not sad, I’m saying what might be over now is this kind of exploitation of animals,” Greer said.

“I am sick and tired of programs that tell me that the world is full of wicked, nasty, powerful, deadly creatures. Why does Australia set itself up to be made into this hellhole?” she said.

I blame Alexander's Horse for that part.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
whats SA threads?

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[Winston]

Live Vote: What do you think of Greer's comments?

I agree with her.



I will now set about to find a way of killing myself.

[pchang]

Try swimming next to large stingrays.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Wezil


I'll admit, my knowledge of stingrays is next to zilch.

That being said, what were his options?

Impaling thoracic wounds are problematic for field treatment - when you pull the object out, you obviosly open the wound channel, and this can allow blood and possibly air to enter the chest cavity, resulting in forced deflation and collapse of the lungs.

Given the nature of the injury (we don't exactly know yet, but the general details are known), his survival chances were next to nothing regardless, but pulling the barb out would likely hasten the process - Irwin might well have known that, and I'm sure the wound was extremely painful.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Winston

Live Vote: What do you think of Greer's comments?

I agree with her.



I will now set about to find a way of killing myself.

You should - she's a colossal twit.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by pchang
Try swimming next to large stingrays.

Only works about three times in 70 years.

[Winston]

What if I wear khaki shorts and bring cameras to get really awesome material for television entertainment?

[SlowwHand]

As long as you don't watch LOTR that night, you're ok.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Then you'd probably drown yourself from the weight you'd be carrying.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Impaling thoracic wounds are problematic for field treatment - when you pull the object out, you obviosly open the wound channel, and this can allow blood and possibly air to enter the chest cavity, resulting in forced deflation and collapse of the lungs.

Given the nature of the injury (we don't exactly know yet, but the general details are known), his survival chances were next to nothing regardless, but pulling the barb out would likely hasten the process - Irwin might well have known that, and I'm sure the wound was extremely painful.

Good answer. Thank you.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Wezil


Good answer. Thank you.

Its basic first aid, you leave an impaling object in the wound unless there are exceptional circumstances. Of course people with things stuck through bits of them that dont normally have things stuck through them have a tendency to try to remove them. Given the speed of the attack, Irwin may not have realized just how bad he was hit and just pulled it out.

[Wezil]

It may be basic first aid but my medical knowledge ends at applying a bandage.