Is depression a disease? Is it more prevalent today?

[Arrian]

Better yet...

God.. "I'm just not happy. I'm just not happy. I'm just not happy because my life didn't turn out the way I thought it would." Hey! Join the ****ing club, ok!? I thought I was going to be the starting center fielder for the Boston Red Socks. Life sucks, get a ****ing helmet, allright?! "I'm not happy. I'm not happy." Nobody's happy, ok!? Happiness comes in small doses folks. It's a cigarette, or a chocolate cookie, or a five second orgasm. That's it, ok! You ***, you eat the cookie, you smoke the butt, you go to sleep, you get up in the morning and go to ****ing work, ok!? That is it! End of ****ing list! "I'm just not happy." Shut the **** up, allright? That's the name of my new book, "Shut the **** Up, by Doctor Denis Leary. A revolutionary new form of therapy." I'm gonna have my patients come in. "Doctor, I.." "Shut the **** up, next!" "I don't feel so.." "Shut the **** up, next!" "He made me feel so much better about myself, you know? He just told me to shut the **** up and nobody had ever told me that before. I feel so much better now." Whining ****ing maggots.

I mean, really, if you're going to do the insensitive bit, do it right.

-Arrian

[SlowwHand]

Do they offer insensitivity training now? Maybe get a diploma, or certificate of completion? Can it be put on a resume to good effect?

[loinburger]

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[Lorizael]

Originally posted by NeOmega
keep living in your depressed stupor and on your happy pills for the rest of your life, see if I care.

Gasp! He has disproven me with his powerful use of logic! I am now unable to reply!

While you're at it, would you mind responding to this?

Originally posted by Lorizael
Sigh. This is getting tiresome. Again with the wild and innacurate.

This time.

What makes you think anti-depressants are designed to mask pain?

What makes you think anti-depressants cloud your mind?

This time, please answer with facts and information, not your own biased observations and conclusions.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by loinburger


This is like the oft-repeated "is .9-repeating equal to 1" arguments -- the people in the wrong are so clueless that they cannot possibly be dissuaded from holding (and voicing) their ignorant opinions.

It is nothing like the .9999 = 1 argument.

One involves mathematics, an exact science, and one involves psychology, a self admitted very un-exact science.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by Lorizael


Gasp! He has disproven me with his powerful use of logic! I am now unable to reply!

While you're at it, would you mind responding to this?

Yeah, see if I care.

[loinburger]

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[SlowwHand]

Well, don't get depressed about it, because no one will care, nor believe you.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by NeOmega
Yeah, see if I care.

Ladies and gentlemen. This is what happen when, in the course of an argument, one side has run out of opinions and beliefs to prop up their claims, and has no evidence or facts with which to actually support their argument in place of the aforementioned opinions and beliefs. Learn from this example.

[SlowwHand]

I'm waiting for Hitler to be brought up.

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by Lorizael


Ladies and gentlemen. This is what happen when, in the course of an argument, one side has run out of opinions and beliefs to prop up their claims, and has no evidence or facts with which to actually support their argument in place of the aforementioned opinions and beliefs. Learn from this example.

See, actually, I just don't care. You think you've won, but I beat depression. You on the other hand, will curl up into a little ball this week and cry because no-one understands your pain, maybe stalk a girl that's out of your league, and wish you were someone you aren't, then pop your happy pills.

So keep doing your drugs... that don't make the depression go away (kill the pain) or cloud your judgement (pain is natural, drugs are unnatural)

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by loinburger

Psychiatry is not psychology. Psychiatry is about the diagnosis and treatment of mental illness. Psychology is about how Freud had an incestuous relationship with his mother.

Psychology is required to make a depression diagnosis. Psychiatry is just the drugs administered after the diagnosis. Studies measuring the effectiveness of the drugs are psychology as well.

However, both the ".9-repeating does not equal 1" argument and the "clinical depression is not a disease" argument rely on dismissing the "so-called experts."

logical fallacy. Dismissing "experts" in the psychological field is not the same as dismissing experts in the mathematical field.

[Blaupanzer]

He is baiting the bear. Demanding proof and evidence at standards he firmly believes are not there. Not as much fun for him when the bear demands proof and evidence too. "See if I care," seems like a pretty wimpy comeback after provoking people and denying their dignity for three threads now. If you don't care, why be insulting and condescending? Answer Lorizael's questions!

[loinburger]

One time I got a cold, but I beat that cold on my own 'cuz that's how I roll. So you go ahead and curl up into a little ball and take your nasal decongestants like a little pansy and whine about how you have a "disease," but real men aren't scared of a little mucus.

[loinburger]

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