The Boy's Club

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
is it just me finding this thread´s title slightly homoerotic?

It's just you. You ghey ***.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Japher
Oh, and I am only here for 2 years (max). I'm applying to buisness school and will be jumping ship soon. Short timership helps in matter like this... I would think

That's a dumb idea. I have three friends currently attending MBA school, I will soon be following unless I do very well on my GRE in which case I will be getting my master's in geology, and all three got their empluyers to pay for it. Come to think of it my ex-girlfriend got her employer to pay for half of her MBA and she was working for a ****ty company.

Get the cheap ****ers to pay your way.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
is it just me finding this thread´s title slightly homoerotic?

I find everything homeerotic.

[SlowwHand]

I thought the group name more pediophilic.
This goes way beyond "good old boy" thought. If you plan on spending a career there, play the game. If not, don't. I wouldn't want to stay there.

[Japher]

Get the cheap ****ers to pay your way

yeah, I've been debating that

[rah]

Get in good with them. Document everything as best as posssible. Piss them off. Get Fired. Sue everyone.
Go play golf.

[Pekka]

Japher, you need to be on their good side. You can't be neutral, you need to be one they like. If you start clashing swords from the get go, you won't gain anything.

Now, there's three ways you can benefit from this. By suing them and getting money out of that one, blackmailing them or getting the benefits of that club, or all of these.

To gain any of these, you need to be positioned right. And that position needs to be favoured by the club. There's just no two ways about it.

Choose your weapon and then strategize further.

[Flubber]

I'm of the view that you don't need to openly take sides. Since there are higher up elements both in and out of this group, I see it as best to not join sides in a way that could bite you in the ass-- particularly if the new 'MISTERMAN' is a club hater.

Also how formalized is this? Is it just a group that gets along and watches each others back or is it something formal to the point that there would be an actual list of members and they have discussed the things you say the club is doing. The former occurrs in most businesses. The latter is a big big NONO

[Japher]

I'm not going to get on their good OR bad side.

It's not formal at all, just a bunch of guys who go riding on the weekends.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Pekka

Now, there's three ways you can benefit from this. By suing them and getting money out of that one, blackmailing them or getting the benefits of that club, or all of these.

I don't see how you can sue anyone as it stands. I didn't see where this club has wronged you in any way (yet)--

The benefits of the club might be interesting particularly if you want to fool around on the job ( At my new job I have a super-hot assistant so I can understand the urge -- even though my love for my wife would prevent me from acting on it Right Mrs Flubber??


I also would not advocate blackmailing the group. First it seems that you don't have taht much knowledge yet above and beyond what mopst folks know. Plus blackmailing a group is doubly tricky-- You never know when one of these folks might be your next boss

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Japher
I'm not going to get on their good OR bad side.

It's not formal at all, just a bunch of guys who go riding on the weekends.

I think thats smart-- Treat them well and treat non-club memebers well and you will always be fine.

While trying to exploit the situation sounds more interesting , I think it is more likely to bite you in the ass than lead to real gains. After all this club just sounds like a group of friends that hand together away from work and protect each other. The only things that might even get them in trouble would be things like covering up sex harrasment.

Covering for a coworker doing nothing-- common!
Nepotism- Common!! (some companies encourage it)
Hiring attractive people -- you DO live in the real world right??- COMMON

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by rah
Get in good with them. Document everything as best as posssible. Piss them off. Get Fired. Sue everyone.
Go play golf.

And write the book.

[Japher]

My boss just came in and apologized to my female coworker for some comment he made. I have no idea what it was, but I'm sure I can guess. My boss is always saying stuff he should, generally it's sexist in a predator/stalker sort of way. Luckily he's not in the club, and they all hate him. I'm just surprised that he bothered to apologize. Though he did conclude his comment with a rather blaze "we'll, I'm old school, so..."

[SlowwHand]

With all the managerial education on harrassment, he's setting himself up for a big fall.

[Japher]

sad thing is, he gave our department a lecture on harrassment. It was right out of The Office, had me in stitches.

I've told my coworkers that I am reporting any form of sexual harrassment from him to HR. I started by reporting it to my supervisor, but that accomplished nothing. It may be that my coworkers have decided to do the same thing.