Racial Preferences for Britain?

[Colon™]

Originally posted by Spiffor

When the cousin of the boss' wife gets the job (assuming he is acceptably qualified), instead of some unknown person who should be better, is it racism?

I believe that's called nepotism.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kontiki


Actually, this is a bit of a terminology issue. In North America, "Asian" almost always means Oriental, while South Asians tend to be referred to more generically as "Indians". While there is a sizeable "Indian" population in N. America (particularly on the west coast), there are far more Orientals. From what I understand, the reverse is true in Britain, for obvious reasons.

yeah thanks for pointing that out. Where I live most of our asian population is oriental. And we do have a sizable oriental population.

We have a decent number of indians as well.

Yes I know the middle east is in Asia. But it's just a weird terminology thing. I do tend to refer to orientals as asians. And people from the middle east as middle easterners (or muslims- though I know they aren't necessarily muslim). And Indians as Indians.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Dis

We have a decent number of indians as well.
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Theyre helping create civilization in the Vegas wilderness.

[Dis]

I still hate this kind of positive discrimination. But I do know there is a still a problem with minorities getting certain jobs. Especially blacks, hispanics, and native americans.

Asians have no problem getting jobs. Although they are vastly under represented in the male stripper job field. Perhaps we need some kind of affirmitive action to rectify this.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Dis


please. If they were qualified for the job, they'd get the job.

Dis assumes there's no racial discrimination in the workplace.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
And laz, what if the customer called the shots as "if you employ darkies, no business"?

The customer is within his/her rights to make such stipulations. The company I work for (which is private sector) would refuse to deal with such requests, of course.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Or maybe he's just advocating that the customer actually buy the best product?

And that the government not act in ways that end up spreading racism.

I don't buy Nestle, Nike, Del Monte and a host of other products that don't operate ethically. I couldn't care less whether their products are better or not. Until they shape up, I don't touch 'em.

That is my right as a cosumer. Now persuade me that this is bad. Or persuade me that it's bad for governments to apply similar ethical standards.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
The customer is within his/her rights to make such stipulations. The company I work for (which is private sector) would refuse to deal with such requests, of course.

So you wouldn't mind if that customer happened to be the government, and that was its policy on picking contractors?

That is my right as a cosumer. Now persuade me that this is bad. Or persuade me that it's bad for governments to apply similar ethical standards.

Because everywhere else it's been done it's done nothing but promote racism and create even more inefficiency in the government's bidding process.

[Kuciwalker]

Really, most companies that bid for government contracts aren't racist at all even if they do have a race imbalance. The imbalance is usually caused by the fact that many professions have that imabalance as a whole, not the company's hiring process.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Dis
And Asians should definately not get special treatment. They are already superior to whites. They have no problem finding jobs.

I'm kidding of course. But generally you don't find a problem with Asians being oppressed.

Asian means from around Pakistan in this context.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
So you wouldn't mind if that customer happened to be the government, and that was its policy on picking contractors?

Of course I would mind. I would exercise my right as a citizen to express my displeasure, and vote for another party

Because everywhere else it's been done it's done nothing but promote racism and create even more inefficiency in the government's bidding process.

Has it really? It strikes me that all the government needs to do is make a vague threat, whereupon any companies seeking government contracts would probably review their recruitment strategy without the need for enforcement.

No need to actually check anything, you see? Welcome to the world of grown-ups. Anyway, it's the government's right to seek such ethical standards, just as it's yours or mine. Would you like your right to choose on ethical grounds to be denied?

[Whaleboy]

EU freeloaders taking all our rented and social housing and bumming off the UK taxpayer.

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[Kuciwalker]

Of course I would mind. I would exercise my right as a citizen to express my displeasure, and vote for another party

Well then we've cleared up that it is perfectly fine for that article to criticize the new proposed policy.

Has it really? It strikes me that all the government needs to do is make a vague threat, whereupon any companies seeking government contracts would probably review their recruitment strategy without the need for enforcement.

But that's the issue. Their recruitment strategy is fine: we look for a bunch of (for example) engineers, get a bunch of resumes, interview some of them, and pick the good ones. Race already doesn't come into it. In this case, the company will end up with a race imbalance because there are fewer black engineers so fewer applied.

The new recruitment strategy will be: oh, we'll do things normally, but if a black person, or a Pakistani comes along, we'll try really hard to hire them even if someone else would do a better job, because otherwise our biggest customer (the government) won't buy from us and we're out of business. And all the employees know this, so everyone will assume the new minority employees don't actually have any talent, they just got hired so we'd could bid on government contracts.

[Kuciwalker]

By the way, how's Nestle unethical? Do they use Finns to make their chocolate or something?

[Dauphin]

Look up Nestle and baby milk, or something like that.