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Re: Re: Would the world be a better place if Germany had won WWI?
You're assuming a German victory in late 1916, early 1917 then, almost two years before the war.
German victory was a possibility had they accepted the Russian proposal for peace (no annexations, just end hostilities). Germany could have doubled the number of troops in the West and smashed France and the British and American expiditionary forces. Germany wins in 1918. France is humiliated by Germany once again in less than 50 years.
The peace leaves Germany master of Europe, the Italian kingdom dismembered, Serbia, Romania and Greece annexed, with German and Ottoman troops threatened the Suez after they crush the Arab rebellion. Britain sues for peace to maintain the canal, and Germany picks up French Africa, with North Africa returning to the Sultan (except for Egypt). Bulgara gets Macedonia and parts of Romania.
The Allies experience the same social upheavals as the defeated Central powers, with massive strikes, and rival left-wing and right-wing movements vying for power.
Flush with victory and full of itself, Germany launches a renewed war with Russia to crush Bolshevik threat to Europe, but is stopped by a wave of strikes against war, Austria comes apart at the seems as Italy, Hungary, the Slavs and Romanians revolt. The generals and the Kaiser are overthrown in Germany, and the new Republic ends the occupation of France.
Workers republics of Hungary and Northern Italy are established. In 1926, a General Strike in Great Britain leads to the establishement of a workers government. France soon follows, and then Germany. With the bureaucracy no longer able to maintain itself by balencing the Soviet workers against the International bourgeoisie, Stalin's faction loses the three way power struggle to an alliance between Trotsky and Bukharin. Democratic communism reigns across Europe as one state after the other falls to its own workers.
Meanwhile, in the U.S., the rising power of the Klan leads to the first fascist government, who blame colored troops, foreign Bolshevized workers and Jewish bankers for our defeat in WWI. Canada is soon annexed.
The Chinese communist party, not being led by Stalin's emissary, isn't fooled into falling into Chiang Kai Shek's trap, and civil war breaks out in 1927 with the Communists in a much stronger position. The military in Japan leads a coup to try and stop the Bolshevik virus from spreading, eading to a Pacific Axis between the U.S. and the Empire of Japan. WWII begins when Japan invades China and other former European colonies in the East.
Originally posted by germanos
In fact, it was Germany that send Lenin in a sealed train through its own territory from Switzerland to Russia.
In fact, it was Germany that send Lenin in a sealed train through its own territory from Switzerland to Russia.
You're assuming a German victory in late 1916, early 1917 then, almost two years before the war.
German victory was a possibility had they accepted the Russian proposal for peace (no annexations, just end hostilities). Germany could have doubled the number of troops in the West and smashed France and the British and American expiditionary forces. Germany wins in 1918. France is humiliated by Germany once again in less than 50 years.
The peace leaves Germany master of Europe, the Italian kingdom dismembered, Serbia, Romania and Greece annexed, with German and Ottoman troops threatened the Suez after they crush the Arab rebellion. Britain sues for peace to maintain the canal, and Germany picks up French Africa, with North Africa returning to the Sultan (except for Egypt). Bulgara gets Macedonia and parts of Romania.
The Allies experience the same social upheavals as the defeated Central powers, with massive strikes, and rival left-wing and right-wing movements vying for power.
Flush with victory and full of itself, Germany launches a renewed war with Russia to crush Bolshevik threat to Europe, but is stopped by a wave of strikes against war, Austria comes apart at the seems as Italy, Hungary, the Slavs and Romanians revolt. The generals and the Kaiser are overthrown in Germany, and the new Republic ends the occupation of France.
Workers republics of Hungary and Northern Italy are established. In 1926, a General Strike in Great Britain leads to the establishement of a workers government. France soon follows, and then Germany. With the bureaucracy no longer able to maintain itself by balencing the Soviet workers against the International bourgeoisie, Stalin's faction loses the three way power struggle to an alliance between Trotsky and Bukharin. Democratic communism reigns across Europe as one state after the other falls to its own workers.
Meanwhile, in the U.S., the rising power of the Klan leads to the first fascist government, who blame colored troops, foreign Bolshevized workers and Jewish bankers for our defeat in WWI. Canada is soon annexed.
The Chinese communist party, not being led by Stalin's emissary, isn't fooled into falling into Chiang Kai Shek's trap, and civil war breaks out in 1927 with the Communists in a much stronger position. The military in Japan leads a coup to try and stop the Bolshevik virus from spreading, eading to a Pacific Axis between the U.S. and the Empire of Japan. WWII begins when Japan invades China and other former European colonies in the East.
Commies underestimate the power of nationalism too much.
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