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  • #16
    Originally posted by snoopy369


    Ah, that explains it. That might actually be sort of related to the DVD people, rather than Windows; iirc there's some sort of odd copyright on the DVD encoding system.
    My suspicion is that Microsoft is simply to stingy to mass-license the codecs for its users...

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    • #17
      No, you have to pay for a plug-in
      They're not expensive, you know... Between 10 and 20 bucks.
      Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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      • #18
        I'd be surprised, if the player didn't come with sufficient software...

        I seem to recall Media Player Classic playing DVD's nicely.
        I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Asher
          You gotta pay a licensing fee if you're going to decode MPEG2, which is what DVDs use.

          Any free decoder isn't technically legal.
          Depends if you are living in a plutocracy or not. In Denmark it is perfectly legal to decode CSS to watch your own DVD.

          Anyway, on Linux there are several good choices. I have used Okle or Ogle, and it works fine.
          http://www.hardware-wiki.com - A wiki about computers, with focus on Linux support.

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          • #20
            The problem isn't decoding CSS, it's paying the licensing fees for the MPEG2 decoding software (which involves its patents), not copy protection.

            Unless Denmark is a third world country (which very well may be the case!), it's still illegal in that country to use patented, licensed technology without acquiring a license.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #21
              Unless patents in the Kingdom of Denmark don't extend as long as their do here, which may be the case. How long does MPEG-2 have it's patent for, anyway?
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #22
                "Unless patents in the Kingdom of Denmark don't extend as long as their do here" --> if patents don't allow you to determine how your inventions are used, what is the point of them?
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #23
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    "Unless patents in the Kingdom of Denmark don't extend as long as their do here" --> if patents don't allow you to determine how your inventions are used, what is the point of them?
                    He was referring to the duration of patent protections, not the extent.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      Unless Denmark is a third world country (which very well may be the case!), it's still illegal in that country to use patented, licensed technology without acquiring a license.
                      Not necessarily. Some countries may not recognise "software patents."
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #26
                        MPEG2 isn't a software patent, it's a mathematical one.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #27
                          UR, you can disappear from the thread now, rather than digging yourself into a hole and then disappearing.

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                          • #28
                            kuciwalker

                            this is not to put down Urban Ranger, but I have learned that when you are outclassed in a conversation, it is best to take a classy approach and not say things that are stupid, just to have something to say.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              MPEG2 isn't a software patent, it's a mathematical one.
                              ISO/IEC 13818 is an open standard. In EU any open standard must be royalty fee.

                              It appears what they are doing in Denmark is legal, under their laws.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                                UR, you can disappear from the thread now, rather than digging yourself into a hole and then disappearing.
                                Are you going to university?
                                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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