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  • #16
    It's quite nice to read that stuff, I've come across some of the cobblers they have come out with. I remember when looking for a digital monitor cable and some of the cobblers about its parameters and shielding and conductivity. That is the beauty of digital, you don't have to worry about that crap. A bog standard piece of wire between the two would do the job quite adequately.
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    • #17
      Its nice to find out that I was right to not care about cables and yeah I'm a great believer in double blind tests for all things 'artsy'.
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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      • #18
        I bought a discontinued floor model 5.1 sound system at Radio Shack for $200, a great deal. I started to buy the cables I needed for it there, and then realized that they would cost more than half the price of the sound system! I went across the street to Target and bought them for less than 25% of what Radio Shack wanted.
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        But he touched it too much!
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        • #19
          Hmmm, it makes me wonder about the computer cable mythos?
          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
          If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            Oh sure. People that cream their jeans over a browser are so much better.
            Owned.

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            • #21
              This piece is several years old but well worth continued circulation.

              I spent 20 years working for a major pro audio manufacturer, with over 100 engineers on staff. Back when I was new there, my job in customer service involved answering letters from end users. (This was the mid-80s, so people actually wrote letters.) The most demanding of these inquiries were generally from audiophiles searching for the perfect combination of turntable-tone arm-phono cartridge. Part of my process involved going to the engineers for technically correct answers.

              Listening to them diss the audiophile tweaks was always a huge source of amusement. I could always get a nice rant going by sitting down with them at lunch and using certain catch phrases -- like "oxygen-free copper" or "Bose."

              It sad that, 20 years later, the only thing that's changed is the increased ability and willingness of marketers to prey on the ignorance of their customers.
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              • #22
                for the most part it's right. i'd quibble about some of the upper end sampling rates and how it affects noises at 20k, but my hearing is so shot these days i'm lucky to percieve anything above 17k
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                • #23
                  It's a well known fact that the use of italics damages high frequency hearing response.
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                  RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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                  • #24
                    as does 150+ db enviroments without protection.
                    I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
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                    • #25
                      nm
                      Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SpencerH
                        Hmmm, it makes me wonder about the computer cable mythos?
                        Shielded is definitely better.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                          Shielded is definitely better.
                          Is that based on empirical data or opinion though? More to the point, while shielded cable certainly has specific uses, is it really worth the extra money for 'Monster Cables' in order to play some game on a console?
                          Last edited by SpencerH; July 14, 2006, 07:57.
                          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                          If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                          • #28
                            No.

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                            • #29
                              You risk having some reliability problems with dirt cheap cables, though. So I'd say its worth paying a little more for cables, but not 1K$ or 10k$ more But I hear that Monster cables are a bit overpriced: you can have cables the same quality, but for less $.

                              The simple truth is that resistance,
                              inductance, and capacitance (R, L, and
                              C) are the only cable parameters that
                              affect performance in the range below
                              radio frequencies. The signal has no
                              idea whether it is being transmitted
                              through cheap or expensive RLC. Yes,
                              you have to pay a little more than rock
                              bottom for decent plugs, shielding, insulation,
                              etc., to avoid reliability problems,
                              and you have to pay attention to
                              resistance in longer connections.
                              In
                              basic electrical performance, however,
                              a nice pair of straightened-out wire
                              coat hangers with the ends scraped is
                              not a whit inferior to a $2000 gee-whiz
                              miracle cable.
                              Let us be lazy in everything, except in loving and drinking, except in being lazy – Lessing

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                              • #30
                                Consoles already come with perfectly fine cables.

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