DeLong: I had to decide whether to be a Civilization addict or an economics professor

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Maybe we should have given it to Bush:

"Damn, these barbarians in the Iraq scenario are really annoying! Its like I can never get rid of them"

In Europa Universalis, he'd just have to wait 30 years for the nationalist +3 Revolt effect to wear off.:P

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Sikander
I have Civ 3, but don't like it. I won't even try Civ 4 until it costs 5$ or less.

BUY IT. Civ 4 is roughly infinity times better than Civ 3.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by MarkG

sure. just let me know of details (type of shirt, font used in the text, etc). we also have the option to do black t-shirt now although i havent bought one of those yet to see how it turns out

Neat trick. Very entreprenual.

[MarkG]

please elaborate

[Bill3000]

True - except for how they handle artillery units (catapults, cannons and artillery). In Civ III these units could be protected by friendly units as they fired at the enemy from a distance - which is what artillery does in real life.

In Civ IV, if you want to target enemy units, you actually have to use your artillery like you'd use common melee units and directly attack the enemy with them, most likely losing them in the process because artillery units aren't made for that kind of fighting. This is a change that really sucks in my opinion and the collateral damage - although a nice touch - really does not make up for it.

There's already a mod that transforms artillery toward the old Civ3 style.

[Guardian]

Wonderful! I'll look it up ASAP!

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


BUY IT. Civ 4 is roughly infinity times better than Civ 3.

My price point is $5 since I bought Civ 3 for full price and it blew chunks imo. And I'm not exactly dying for yet another Civ game.

[Ecthy]

So Civ4 artillery is like pre-Civ3 artillery?

[Kuciwalker]

It's like SMAC artillery - it does collateral damage.

[Arrian]

Arty units in Civ4 do two things:

1) Reduce city defense bonus via standoff bombardment. A city will have a certain % defense bonus that is primarily based on culture, but also walls and/or a castle. Catapults and the like can bombard and reduce this bonus, all the way to 0.

2) Attack and cause collateral damage. For the most part, catapults will not have great odds of outright victory. They may die, but deal splash damage, allowing your other units to mop up. They can also retreat, although the retreat chance is fairly low. And they're fairly cheap.

-Arrian

[Stuie]

OFF TOPIC people!

OFF Topic.

[Mercator]

Re: DeLong: I had to decide whether to be a Civilization addict or an economics profe

Originally posted by VetLegion
Another doctor of economics, Bryan Caplan, follows up:

(...)

P.S. If you've got an early version of Civilization II, I wrote some fun scenarios for it, including a version of World War II where Hitler and Stalin begin as allies, and - for readers with cast-iron stomachs - a horrifying take on World War III...

Hmmm, funny coincidence. I was just on his website a few minutes ago:

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/civ2.htm

[TCO]

They have Civ4? I'm still thinking about getting Gold.