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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sir Ralph
    At the moment I play Patricians Online, and a couple of other online games. But then, my interests have a bit shifted away from Civ.
    :geek:

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    • #32


      Is that you?

      And if you think you can troll me, no pasaran!

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      • #33
        That's the average Partician Online player.

        Patrizier 1 however

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        • #34
          Was it Johnson that practicly bankrupted American cities and brought on urban/suburban segregation with forced bussing?
          Long time member @ Apolyton
          Civilization player since the dawn of time

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ecthy
            You don't even know what YOU're missing

            Civ 4 vs. real life
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            There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
            Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lancer
              Was it Johnson that practicly bankrupted American cities and brought on urban/suburban segregation with forced bussing?
              A lot of things can be and should be blamed on Johnson, but those aren't two of them.

              For example, forced bussing was a concept created by the courts, staring with Judge Gittleson in Los Angeles.

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              • #37
                I'm not really up on this. (Obviously) So this judge in LA...and who would have guessed LA, did what Zkrib? How did what he did make suburban kids in NJ take busses into Newark to be easy meat for the gangbangers in the name of equality? Seems to be out of his jurisdiction...
                Long time member @ Apolyton
                Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                • #38
                  Leaving the Vietnam war was the worst thing ever done. Many many many people were murdered in South Vietnam after the USA stopped to protect them.

                  It's the '60s that ended the golden age of the western world because it introduced demogagy and the voice of the people = the voice of the fools.
                  Not to mention that it turned our civilization into decadence.
                  Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                  Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                  • #39
                    So CyberShy, you want a new best friend?
                    Long time member @ Apolyton
                    Civilization player since the dawn of time

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                    • #40
                      CS what are you talking about?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by CyberShy
                        Leaving the Vietnam war was the worst thing ever done. Many many many people were murdered in South Vietnam after the USA stopped to protect them.

                        It's the '60s that ended the golden age of the western world because it introduced demogagy and the voice of the people = the voice of the fools.
                        Not to mention that it turned our civilization into decadence.

                        Ah yes. History on hallucinogens folks.


                        Just say wooaahhhh........
                        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                        • #42
                          They were on a lot hallucinogens during that point in history, yes

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                          • #43
                            Pres. Nixon was the one "leaving the Vietnam war", not Johnson (to say the least).

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Lancer
                              I'm not really up on this. (Obviously) So this judge in LA...and who would have guessed LA, did what Zkrib? How did what he did make suburban kids in NJ take busses into Newark to be easy meat for the gangbangers in the name of equality? Seems to be out of his jurisdiction...
                              He made the ruling for L.A. schools.
                              Other judges across the nation followed his lead.

                              BTW: He was voted out in the next election.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by CyberShy
                                Leaving the Vietnam war was the worst thing ever done. Many many many people were murdered in South Vietnam after the USA stopped to protect them.
                                Some were undoubtedly killed, but compared to the take overs by Lenin, Mao, Castro and Pol Pot, it was relatively bloodless. Most "running dogs" were sent off the "re-ducation camps." Far more Vietnamese lost their lives to pirates who attacked and plundered small boats of refugees.

                                It's the '60s that ended the golden age of the western world because it introduced demogogy and the voice of the people = the voice of the fools.
                                I hate it when people in a democracy have their voices heard.

                                Not to mention that it turned our civilization into decadence.
                                This is true. There was an overreaction to the racism and the functional-Victorianism of the 50's and early 60's.

                                In this overreaction, liberty became equated with license and libido. Wrecking your brain with LSD was "mind expanding." Personal responsibility was a drag. Property was theft-- which grated license to take other people's property. Sha na na na nanana, live for today meant no long term goals. "If it feels good, do it," negated the function of the human brain.

                                It's interesting to see the hippies of yesteryear counselling their own kids against drugs and promescuity.

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