Pirates of the Caribbean II: Dead Man's Chest

[Jaguar]

In short: It's not as good as the first one, and not as bad as some critics would have you believe. It's certainly an entertaining summer movie, but we need to see where it's going.

This is the second part in a blockbuster trilogy. It's long, much of it appears not to make sense, and it leaves the ending totally unresolved. There are two comparable films I can think of. The good news is that one of them is The Empire Strikes Back. The bad news is that the other is The Matrix: Reloaded. The difference between the two is simple. The Return of the Jedi resolved The Empire Strikes Back in a satisfactory way, drawing things together pretty neatly. The Matrix: Revolutions mostly made things worse.

The quality of this film will depend mostly on the quality of the next one. Then we'll know whether we have a great trilogy or a great movie and two bad sequels. Or maybe it will be somewhere in between. I don't think the Pirates series will finish as well as the Star Wars series, nor do I think it will finish as disappointingly as the Matrix series.

There's a lot of room between, though. We'll wait and see.

Oh, and there's a small scene after the credits, but it might not be worth the wait. It's nothing earth-shattering.

[Kuciwalker]

In short: It's not as good as the first one, and not as bad as some critics would have you believe.

The WaPo criticized it because they said Depp wasn't gay enough

Well, going to see this tomorrow (er... today) anyway

[Jaguar]

Oh, do me a favor:

Check your watch when Bloom first gets captured by the cannibals. And then check it again when he finally escapes.

I swear the scene's about 50 minutes long. And pointless.

[asleepathewheel]

THere are a few scenes that took way too long. Especially, imho, the triple swordfight action towards the end. They really didn't need that much time there. also, how many times will kraken attack? At times it seemed like they were trying to overwhelm with filler, when it wasn't necessary. I think they needed a better editor.

That said, I did enjoy the flick, thought the criticisms were quite overblown.

[Jaguar]

I thought the triple swordfight was one of the better action sequences. Much better than a lot of the wasted time with the cannibals.

[C0ckney]

i saw it yesterday, it's was pretty good. not exactly gneius. but well worth seeing if you enjoyed the first one

[Vesayen]

I could not possibly disagree with the original post more. The movie was fantastic. The plot was strong and coherant, the acting was great. There are NOT really any loose ends, if they made no sequel, the movie would stand on its own. A movie needs not bring closure to everything, just tell a good story.... none the less, the movie does bring closure to every issue adressed. To compared it to the matrix reloaded is a serious insult-it was a fantastic movie.

[Jaguar]

You're a moron. There aren't any loose ends? How about

Spoiler:

The building romantic triangle with Elizabeth kissing Captain Sparrow near the end?

[Vesayen]

Spoiler below:

Spoiler:

It is resolved. Jack is dead. If he comes back to life it might continue, as for now its no triangle because one of the sides, is dead. You do not have a love triangle between 2 people and a corpse inside the stomach of a kraken. Even if it is not resolved, its not a major deal if it is not.

[Jaguar]

Spoiler:

If Jack is going to come back to life, the love triangle isn't resolved. Not to mention the fact that even if Jack's gone, that kiss is going to have some ramifications that we haven't seen yet.

The last scene in the love storyline was Elizabeth kissing someone other than her fiance, in front of him. Does that sound like the resolution of a plot, or the beginning of one?

[Vesayen]

Spoiler:

We don't know if Jack is going to come back to life yet. There are no ramafications for now, he is dead. If he was ressurected at the last second, that would be one thing but it is not. For now, he is dead. IF he comes back to life in the next movie and he proboably will, the thus created love-triangle problem will be resolved then. It is not a problem now.

Your nit picking, basically. It is something minor and a movie needs not resolve all plot lines to be a great movie.

[Jaguar]

Spoiler:

If your wife kissed someone, and then he went off to India or something never to be seen again, would you say that the marital problem no longer exists?

[Vesayen]

Spoiler:

Marital problems are an entirley distinct issue from the wife kissing this other man. There is the adultery of the wife kissing the man and the marital problems which likley caused her to go astray. If the second man dies, the marital problems remain, but the affair does not. I don't care about the marital problems *shrug*. The movie was awsome. Your nitpiking, you don't want to like it.

[Spiffor]

@ thread

[MRT144]

Spoiler:

vesayen is an idiot