Are the folk in Gitmo guilty or innocent?

[St Leo]

I think there will be a correlation between people thinking that Gitmo folk are there on made-up charges and people against Gitmo in general.:P

[Jaguar]

Mostly guilty of something. The point isn't that they are innocent, the point is that they need to be proven guilty.

[General Ludd]

If you believe in the phrase "innocent untill proven guilty" then they are mostly all innocent.

[Tattila the Hun]

And whether or not being the coffee maker for a Al-Qaeda-cell is punishable by life in prison...

[Combat Ingrid]

All suspects are guilty. Otherwise they wouldn't be suspects, would they?

[Proteus_MST]

All of them are guilty,
why else would the american government place them into gitmo?

You wouldn´t suspect the american government of making mistakes, do you?
After all this would be unpatriotic

Oh wait, I´m no citizens of the united states so it wouldn´t be unpatriotic if I choose the mostly guilty-Option

Of course it depends on what crimes they´re guilty. Unlawful combatants? I think this applies ot a lot of the inmates of gitmo.
Terrorists or mem,bers of Al Quaeda? This probably applies to much fewer of the inmates.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Jaguar
Mostly guilty of something. The point isn't that they are innocent, the point is that they need to be proven guilty.

[General Ludd]

I don't understand how people can say that they are mostly guilty while at the same time acknowledging that it can't be/hasn't be proven.

[Victor Galis]

I think only a small fraction of them are guilty of something worthy of being imprisoned at Gitmo. The majority are probably guilty of something minor and no real threat to the US. A small group is completely innocent.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by General Ludd
I don't understand how people can say that they are mostly guilty while at the same time acknowledging that it can't be/hasn't be proven.

Because I'm willing to bet the military picked these individuals up for a reason.

I am, however, exceedingly bothered by the fact that we know there are people in there that are not enemies of the United States, but have had their lives completely ruined anyways because the US is too lazy/careless/evil to give them due process.

[Q Classic]

If they hadn't made a lifestyle choice to become ethnically terrorist, then they wouldn't be guilty and wouldn't be at Gitmo.

Simple as that.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by General Ludd
I don't understand how people can say that they are mostly guilty while at the same time acknowledging that it can't be/hasn't be proven.

Its the difference in actual versus provable guilt. In any sample of 100 average drivers at least 50 have been guilty of speeding at some point in their last 100km driven. I have no evidence other than the fact that 90% of the cars out there are going at least 5 over the speed limit.


My answer is a little different-- Guilty of what? Since I don't know much about the individuals incarcerated there, I would suspect that some are innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever (other than carrying a gun in a lawless environment perhaps) while others are full-fledged committed adherents with Al Quaida-- Most were probab ly somewhee in the middle-- Folks that might shoot at whichever occupier tries to go through their village and are pissed with the lot

[lord of the mark]

Time to close it

I think most were at least foot soldiers with the Taliban/AQ. I suppose its possible that a few were simply Arabs who happened to think it worth heading to Afghanistan for the marvelous madrassah educational opportunities, opporunities that simply werent available in Saudi, Yemen, etc, and were fingered by local informants incorrectly or maliciously.

As long as we were getting info from them it made some sense to hold them. For the majority, who are no longer sources of info, and about whom it is probably impossible to gather evidence capable of proof in a US court of law, it makes sense to just release them. At the worst, they will reappear on the battlefield as footsoldiers once again, where they are likely to end up dead, and will certainly do us less harm then their presence at Gitmo does.

My understanding is that the really highlevel guys, like Khalid sheik Muhammed, are NOT being held in Gitmo.

[snoopy369]

They are probably mostly guilty. Their probable guilt has no bearing on their actual status.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by General Ludd
I don't understand how people can say that they are mostly guilty while at the same time acknowledging that it can't be/hasn't be proven.

"if the glove dont fit, you must acquit"