Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Supreme Court Blocks War Crime Tribunals at Gitmo!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Supreme Court Blocks War Crime Tribunals at Gitmo!



    June 29, 2006
    In Rebuke for Bush, Court Block Trials at Guantanamo
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees.

    The ruling, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies, was written by Justice John Paul Stevens, who said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and international Geneva conventions.

    The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a bodyguard and driver for Osama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison in Cuba. He faces a single count of conspiring against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.

    Two years ago, the court rejected Bush's claim to have the authority to seize and detain terrorism suspects and indefinitely deny them access to courts or lawyers. In this follow-up case, the justices focused solely on the issue of trials for some of the men.

    The vote was split 5-3, with moderate Justice Anthony M. Kennedy joining the court's liberal members in ruling against the Bush administration. Chief Justice John Roberts, named to the lead the court last September by Bush, was sidelined in the case because as an appeals court judge he had backed the government over Hamdan.

    Thursday's ruling overturned that decision.

    Bush spokesman Tony Snow said the White House would have no comment until lawyers had had a chance to review the decision. Officials at the Pentagon and Justice Department were planning to issue statements later in the day.

    The administration had hinted in recent weeks that it was prepared for the court to set back its plans for trying Guantanamo detainees.

    The president also has told reporters, "I'd like to close Guantanamo." But he added, "I also recognize that we're holding some people that are darn dangerous."

    The court's ruling says nothing about whether the prison should be shut down, dealing only with plans to put detainees on trial.

    "Trial by military commission raises separation-of-powers concerns of the highest order," Kennedy wrote in his opinion.

    The prison at Guantanamo Bay, erected in the months after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States, has been a flash point for international criticism. Hundreds of people suspected of ties to al-Qaida and the Taliban -- including some teenagers -- have been swept up by the U.S. military and secretly shipped there since 2002.

    Three detainees committed suicide there this month, using sheets and clothing to hang themselves. The deaths brought new scrutiny and criticism of the prison, along with fresh calls for its closing.


    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

  • #2
    So are they going to have to read people the Miranda warning now before they are captured?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

    Comment


    • #3
      Who are the three that voted in favor of the government?
      Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
      "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

      Comment


      • #4
        Scalia, Thomas, and Alito.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

        Comment


        • #5
          That was an inference that I probably could have made on my own, wasn't it?
          Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
          "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Lorizael
            That was an inference that I probably could have made on my own, wasn't it?
            Yeah, probably should have . Roberts had to recuse himself, but he would have been the 4th with the government. Kennedy went with Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

            Comment


            • #7
              Yes. Yes, it was.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

              Comment


              • #8
                Pretend I was testing you all.
                Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

                Comment


                • #9
                  Damn activist judges.
                  B♭3

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Now about my Miranda warning question.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Excellent decision.

                      Maybe we can have some fair trials at last. I suspect the evidence against many detainees is of the same calibre as that presented to the UN - dubious at best.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        So are they going to have to read people the Miranda warning now before they are captured?
                        Deos this mean its best just to kill them on the field of battle?
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I don't like the way the Admin has handled Gitmo, but any sane person has to acknowledge that this situation is something that anyone (perhaps other than a fascist or a libertarian) would struggle with.

                          They aren't PoWs. They're not really civilian criminals either, though, are they? It's not cut-and-dried.

                          Like I said, I don't like the way they've handled it, and I would've done things differently, but I doubt my way would've been perfect either.

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            So are they going to have to read people the Miranda warning now before they are captured?
                            Cute, but the Miranda warning applies only to law enforcement making a custodial arrest.
                            When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                              Cute, but the Miranda warning applies only to law enforcement making a custodial arrest.
                              Is this not custodial in nature? Won't there be speedy trial issues to deal with? Is it really a crime to be fighting the US military on the battlefield of a foreign country? Will we have to provide lawyers during interrogations?
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X