Why no threads about treasonous New York Times revealing national secrets again?

[DinoDoc]

I don't even see why they felt the need to expose the program. It's been effective by all accounts and unlike the NSA wiretapping doesn't exist in a legal grey area. I hope they find out who leaked the program and prosecute them.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Why no threads about treasonous New York Times revealing national secrets again?


Why indeed? I was waiting to see how long it would take.

Now that it has been raised it will be interesting to see the fallout. I doubt highly Bush has the cahoneys to prosecute the NYT's however richly deserved.

[DinoDoc]

I dunno. We might see some reporters jailed for protecting sources if an investigation seeking the leaker is kicked off.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I dunno. We might see some reporters jailed for protecting sources if an investigation seeking the leaker is kicked off.

That will simply be contempt proceedings. There are laws on the books that are supposed to punish those who knowingly publish calssified info.

The arguemnt can be made that Novak did not know Plame was a covert operative. That arguement can't even attempt to be made in this case (or for that matter previous leaks).

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

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It seems like the New York Times is revealing all our national security secrets, but relax: they have their limits. If the Times learned that US troops were force-feeding Gitmo detainees with Coca-cola, they wouldn’t publish Coke’s secret formula. They might get sued. If there’s a CIA program that uses offensive cartoons of Mohammed to communicate with agents, they’ll keep mum, lest they have to publish the images. They might get stabbed. But secret law-enforcement-type programs as classified as the access code to the Times top-floor elevator? Fair game. You’ve the right to know.

Here’s a look ahead to new, vital scoops.

August 21, 2006: “Super-stealthy surveillance drone emits high-frequency sounds harmful to dogs,” a story announces. “Classified documents personally unsealed by Times editor Bill Killer reveals the new generation of spy drones cause dogs to run in circles, barking uncontrollably.” Asked whether this might cause terrorists to start keeping dogs, a Times spokesman said it was unlikely, as they struck him more as cat people.

What’s more, they probably assumed they were being watched. The spokesman referenced the Times story on classified satellites that could see through roofs at night from space, unless the roofs were covered with two layers of aluminum foil. “Thanks to that story,” the spokesman added, “the satellite has only been used one-tenth of the time, which adds considerably to its longevity.” He also referenced a story on Baghdad’s booming aluminum-installation trade as one of those “good news” stories bloggers are always demanding.

September 10, 2006: The New York Times runs a story about a CIA agent named Mohammed Al-Ghouri, 1034 Summit Park, Evanston Illinois, who is attempting to penetrate a radical sleeper cell suspected of having 19 liters of homemade mustard gas. The series concludes with the agent’s obituary, and a moving quote from a CIA historian who notes that the “al-Ghouri was one of rare, brave breed whose names and deeds are rarely known. Except in this case, of course.”

Criticized for blowing the agent’s cover, a Times spokesman tartly noted that “this man is – sorry, was a government employee, and if he’s using taxpayer money to take terrorists out to lunch, we think the people ought to know, if only so they judge the menu items chosen on behalf of the government. Was veal consumed? Because a lot of people are sensitive to the veal issue.”

Feb. 14, 2007: Times Editor Keller approves the publication of the Pentagon’s plans for a Feb 15th strike on Iran, asserting that “there has been far too little debate about whether the sustained assault by cruise missiles and stealth bombers will provide a cover for the infiltration of several SpecOps teams from the Iraqi and Afghan bases, or whether these groups, code named ‘Red Six’ and ‘Blue Fourteen’ respectively, might suffer friendly fire. One error in timing, such as the barrage scheduled for the 3 AM on night of the 24th, could expose our troops to great harm. If this leads to a debate about whether the Tomahawk missile can be sent slightly off course by a concentrated microwave burst, as classified documents seem to suggest, it’s a debate we need to have.”

April 1, 2007: Speaking before Congress – specifically, the Visitors’ Gallery, where he suddenly stands and begins to orate - Keller demands that the Senate declare the First Amendment “the bestest amendment ever” and highlight it in the Bill of Rights with a yellow marker. He is removed.

Oct. 31, 2007: Rumors in the Times newsroom indicate that Editor Keller has become a believer in the “Hidden Editor” sect of journalism. This sect believes that if newspapers create enough chaos in the world, the hidden, or Twelfth, editor will appear. This will institute a reign of peace, justice, rising circulation rates, an eternal lock on the classifieds market, and a general agreement that Walter Duranty was correct: Ukrainians really did starve themselves to death out of patriotic fervor.

Jan. 27, 2008: Keller’s replacement announces that the New York Times will begin running comic strips. Four full pages, from Garfield to Blondie.

New York intellectuals are finally horrified. Subscriptions are cancelled in droves.

[DinoDoc]

Yes, we all know that the current leadership at the NYT would have published the plans for the Normandy invasion during WWII but I still don't see the appetite for a prosecution of Keller and others.

[Dinner]

I can't wait to hear the whining of the neo-cons now that the SCotUS has struck down Bush's secret military tribunals. Surely they will moan endlessly about "activist judges" ignoring the fact that Republicans appointed most of those "activist judges" as well as the fact that said judges aren't being activists and instead are simply doing their job; providing judicial review.

No doubt they will squeel and squeel. I half expect Drake to be the thread starter.

[DinoDoc]

This is the wrong thread. I think you took a wrong turn somewhere with that post Oerdin. This is the one you seek.

[Dinner]

OH, BTW the administration's interpritation of the Congressional act to authorize the war in Iraq is what the Administration has publically used to justify both it's classifying terrorist suspects as enemy combatants and the illegal wire taping programs. The SCotUS just tossed out most of the Administration's interpritation of that Congressional act so we there is an excellent chance the SCotUS to also declare the wire tapping without warrents and the monitoring of bank accounts to also get slapped down.

I look forward to Drake accusing the SCotUS of hating American and siding with the terrorists. Or maybe he will call them treasonous.

[DinoDoc]

You're still in the wrong thread but seem to be getting wierder.

[Dinner]

Hey, that was straight out of CNN and it is the right thread.

[dannubis]

DD practising what the governement preaches: personnal attacks if you don't have a moral leg to stand on...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by dannubis
DD practising what the governement preaches: personnal attacks if you don't have a moral leg to stand on...

Well given the fact he alleges the recent program is illegal (something I don't even think the NYT alleged. They just wanted to expose it.) and I've seen no serious case put foward anywhere asserting that it was I felt no need to deal with him in any serious manner. Plus he is in the wrong thread if he insists on discussing the recent SCOTUS decision.

[Sava]

your face is in the wrong thread

[Asher]

Originally posted by Asher
As embarrassing as this failed thread?

I take this back. Congrats.