We need an amendment

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Damn still pretty scary the thing only failed by one vote. And in the Senate no less, they are supposed to be the rational house.

This will always fail by one vote, because in any year at most 34 senators are up for reelection, and at least 33 aren't facing an election for 4 years.

[PLATO]

An amendment to ban free expression...

The US has gone a long way down the wrong road on civil liberties.

[chequita guevara]

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by PLATO
An amendment to ban free expression...

The US has gone a long way down the wrong road on civil liberties.

[PLATO]

ahhh, but Kuci, it is sadly true.

[chequita guevara]

Kuci's not old enough to remember. Us old farts are the one who were around in the 70s when we hit our current peak.

Granted, socially we at our period of greatest tollerance towards people of different gneder, race, sexual preference. Our government, however, has backslid quit a bit. The 4th Amendment is practically meaningless, the 1st is under attack. The 14th was thrown out after 9/11. Habeus corpus, meh. Etc. etc.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Kuci's not old enough to remember. Us old farts are the one who were around in the 70s when we hit our current peak.

The 70's!

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The really scary thing is, had it passed somehow, it probably would have been approved by all fifty states in record time.

like it would matter. It's completely irrelevant. What are they going to do gag us with flags or something?

The only scary thing is that congress bothers to waste time with this **** in the first place. I fail to see anything scary whatsoever about the damn thing passing except that it would end up being some very minor clutter in the constitution.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by PLATO
An amendment to ban free expression...

The US has gone a long way down the wrong road on civil liberties.

true but it's pretty trivial. Like banning the use of morse code to say "**** you". It's not like they could ever shut anybody up with this.

[Vesayen]

It passed the house. It failed to pass congress by a SINGLE VOTE.

Democracy is dead.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Geronimo
like it would matter. It's completely irrelevant. What are they going to do gag us with flags or something?

The only scary thing is that congress bothers to waste time with this **** in the first place. I fail to see anything scary whatsoever about the damn thing passing except that it would end up being some very minor clutter in the constitution.

Um... what are they going to do? I dunno, put people who burn the flag in jail perhaps?

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Vesayen
It passed the house. It failed to pass congress by a SINGLE VOTE.

Democracy is dead.

what has the death of democracy got to do with this inane flag burning amendment? If they have to pass a friggin constitutional ammendment not just for every message but also for the specific means of delivering it it's going to take them a hell of a lot of ammendments to stop us from saying what they don't want to hear.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Um... what are they going to do? I dunno, put people who burn the flag in jail perhaps?

Dunno. But if this abomination ever gets passed, the first thing I'll probably do is burn a flag in protest.

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by Geronimo


what has the death of democracy got to do with this inane flag burning amendment? If they have to pass a friggin constitutional ammendment not just for every message but also for the specific means of delivering it it's going to take them a hell of a lot of ammendments to stop us from saying what they don't want to hear.

It shows our political process is so corrupt and our citizenry so amazingly, unbelievably unatentive and stupid when it comes to politics and our goverment, that something like this almost went to the state legislatures.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Um... what are they going to do? I dunno, put people who burn the flag in jail perhaps?

so what? That's easily avoided. it just forces us to enunciate instead of relying on one dramatic and extremely vague metaphor. It can't stop the message. It's utterly pointless and irrelevant except as a means of opening a new form of civil disobedience. Now people can pack the jails and burn the flag at the same time.