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  • Originally posted by Geronimo


    excuse me? Humanity still doesn't yet know how evolution works. It's far from a dead area of investigation there is a wealth of insight being gained essentially nonstop on the intricacies of evolution past and present and there is little sign we will be done even decades from now puzzling out how it works and has worked in the past.

    and for the record would you care to quote the part of the article you linked that answered lancer's question?
    (stereotypical french accent) Zee stupid Americains.


    Just, kiding. But I don't understand wether you are refering to the basic proces or the complex paritcularites?
    I'm not buying BtS until Firaxis impliments the "contiguous cultural border negates colony tax" concept.

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    • Originally posted by Lorizael
      Vesayen, while you are not the monumental genius you seem to think you are, you are more intelligent than the average person, and you are completely wrong about this. Most people don't get evolution. Therefore, it's not simple.
      No, the real deduction from this is that most people are stupid.
      I'm not buying BtS until Firaxis impliments the "contiguous cultural border negates colony tax" concept.

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      • Originally posted by _BuRjaCi_


        Yes, a bright lad named Albert figured that out some time ago.
        What can I say? I'm behind my time.
        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
          If you want an example of a valid "Copernican" concern in modern cosmology then you don't have to go any further than the discovery that the Universe became dark energy dominated in the very recent past (our current time is much closer to the inflexion point than we have any reason to predict). Why do we just happen to be observing things at a very special time?

          Now that's a fact that bothers cosmologists...
          Why?

          Berzerker
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          Civilization player since the dawn of time

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          • Originally posted by DaShi


            What can I say? I'm behind my time.
            Just kidding.

            What is it that you actualy don't understand about everything being a state of energy?

            Perhaphs I or some of the people here can help you, but you have got to be more specific because you can find the basic explanation on the wikipedia (look it up) and it would be a waste of time to explain everything.
            I'm not buying BtS until Firaxis impliments the "contiguous cultural border negates colony tax" concept.

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            • Originally posted by DaShi
              How can you be certain?
              You don't get any laws of physics in a ball of pure energy (something like that). Only a short while after the Bang did the laws for this universe come into being.

              Well, this is my understanding of modern cosmology anyway.
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              • Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                You don't get any laws of physics in a ball of pure energy (something like that). Only a short while after the Bang did the laws for this universe come into being.

                Well, this is my understanding of modern cosmology anyway.
                So you're not certain. Yet you still believe this?
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • Originally posted by _BuRjaCi_


                  Just kidding.

                  What is it that you actualy don't understand about everything being a state of energy?

                  Perhaphs I or some of the people here can help you, but you have got to be more specific because you can find the basic explanation on the wikipedia (look it up) and it would be a waste of time to explain everything.
                  What I don't understand in physics could fill several textbooks. I'm often just curious about some of the oddities and how wrong some of my crazy assumptions are.

                  But if you have a Theory of Everything, that would make things easier.
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • Originally posted by DaShi


                    What I don't understand in physics could fill several textbooks. I'm often just curious about some of the oddities and how wrong some of my crazy assumptions are.

                    But if you have a Theory of Everything, that would make things easier.
                    I don't have a TOE but I do have a basic understanding of E=mc2.
                    I'm not buying BtS until Firaxis impliments the "contiguous cultural border negates colony tax" concept.

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                    • Originally posted by _BuRjaCi_


                      Yes, a bright lad named Albert figured that out some time ago.
                      No, he didn't
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                      • Originally posted by Lancer


                        Why?

                        Berzerker
                        Because odd coincidences bother us.
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
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                        • Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                          You don't get any laws of physics in a ball of pure energy (something like that). Only a short while after the Bang did the laws for this universe come into being.

                          Well, this is my understanding of modern cosmology anyway.
                          Errrr....what?
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                            Aren't you a condensed matter kind of physcist?
                            No, that changed quite a while ago.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                              Errrr....what?
                              Weren't the fundamental forces indistinguishable at those high energies? maybe that's what he meant?

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                              • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                                Errrr....what?
                                Urban Ranger was providing a very, very condensed version of Hawkings theory that the laws of physics, as we know them, came into being microseconds after the Big Bang. The "ball of energy" he referred to was the time before those few microseconds.

                                I will bow to your expertise on the lambda-CDM. However, as I understand it, it requires we postulate an item (dark energy) to exist that we can neither identify or detect, let alone test. Since science is all about testing, how does dark energy (including dark matter) differ from the belief in angels or the "aethyr" theories of the late 1890s.

                                The original question was about the end of the universe. The universe appears perfectly capable of going on to ultimate entropy without the need for or use of dark energy.
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