How do you feel about drug users

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Dis
what is recreational use?

To me its any use that doesn't materially interefere with your ability to hold a job, keep your friends, support your family etc etc. I recreationally drink alcohol and gamble for instance.

If I ever lost a job to drunkeness or gambled away the grocery money then thats beyond recreational IMHO

[Dis]

my best friend growing up turned into a major druggie. I feel bad, because I didn't really try to stop it. I'm not sure if there was anything I could have done though. And I feel worse because we kind of lost touch when I was in the navy, and I never bothered to try to track him down when I moved back to my hometown. I just don't like hanging around people who do drugs all the time. It's not a lifestyle I want for myself. Their conversations are so stupid. They can't hold any level of intelligent conversation. And they didn't used to be this stupid...

But I've always told myself I would never abandon my friends again. And so far, I haven't.

[Lazerus]

I'm at uni and 2 of the people there are going through a couple grammes of coke every few days and their conversation is always something along the lines of :

"woah man f***in hell i woke up the other day and i thought the grass was trying to eat me and now im afraid to go near the stuff!!"

heh yeah amusing, both the story and in a twisted way the torture you're mentally self inflicting upon yourself is like car crash tv

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Lazerus
I'm at uni and 2 of the people there are going through a couple grammes of coke every few days and their conversation is always something along the lines of :

"woah man f***in hell i woke up the other day and i thought the grass was trying to eat me and now im afraid to go near the stuff!!"

Then they are just muppets, the drugs are incidental. Coke isn't a hallucinagenic, either they are full of sh1t or you are

[Lazerus]

Thats from the mushrooms, probably made twice as bad by mixing in the speed and e, the conversation was just the most memorable as it provided a laugh to me. The amount of coke being snorted is still the most worrying as they lie about sweating like pigs and having massive moodswings at uni whilst trying to buy stun guns because "people are out to get them", probably from being unable to pay for your habits if you haven't gone completely paranoid.

[reds4ever]

"muppet" is is then, eh?

I know a guy from Liverpool Uni who got into pills (bought a load to sell but ate them all himself), couldn't pay the dealer, got kidnapped and Mummy had to bail him out. Totally out of his depth. It's doesn't make the drugs the problem though, IMHO.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Donegeal
Drug users

(they keep me employed )

[Terra Nullius]

Originally posted by Lazerus
Took about 1 year for him to go from a good kid to some local junkie stealing his mothers jewellery to buy whatever he wanted a shot of.

While that sort of behaviour is often the case, I don't agree with it as a generalisation.

I have (or had) smackie friends who I would lend money to without question. In fact, they paid me back with more consistency than my straight friends.

I really don't trust anyone on meth. and I would normally just avoid them. And most coke-heads are self-absorbed d1cks, but I'm not convinced it's because of the drug alone.

Having some knowledge of how different drugs affect people is helpful, but the drug doesn't define the person. If somebody is true to their word, treat them accordingly. If someone screws you around, don't give them the house keys. Doesn't matter if they're a crack whore or a lawyer.

Disclaimer: Does not apply to lawyers

[Grandpa Troll]

Well, I admit I was abused physically and emotionally as a child, had my teeth kicked out, pissed on beaten with brass knuckles, baseball bats to name a few all from age 10-13 when I lost my 3 front teeth.

How did I deal with it, I became an introvert, collected nice little manurisms and nervous habbits because I was terrified to raise my head to see those who had so abused me, as I walked and lived everyday among them. I live in northern Maine and it was unpleasant as heck.

I started drinking as a child of 14 and turned from beer to marijuana, got kicked out of the house when I was 15. AA Time.

I turned to liquor and more pot and hash.

17 in Military, went to Germany and found harder things.

took a hiatus and became a Federal Lawman but soon found my demons visiting again.

Cocaine,Crack, Crystal Meth, PCP (dippers, Green-where you soak parsley with the juice, Loveboat, pot soaked in PCP,Mushrooms and Acid...all to run from my pain. My inner pain. I was wrong but chose this path.

Have I kicked the habit?

I thanks God for the strength to not do drugs anymore.

Am I over it, the addictiveness?

I will allways be a "recovering individual" because if I were to let my guard down, I would possibly slip.

Now, my body is paying the price, my health issues could indeed be tied to excessive drug abuse.

Things people use for "cut", inosotol (hair supplement), Manitol (baby Laxitive), crushed aspirin or whatever to go into your lungs. They soak some cocaine in kerosene to travel. I allways travelled with PCP in a coffee can. Have you ever smelled PCP in a jar, it is tough and most people cant take it, the fumes.

This almost caused me to decide to commit suicide. I went cold turkey.

I share because I made it out, One day at a time. I dont put myself in those situations.

Recently, I got rear ended by a driver doing cocaine, I was at a Light and stopped and he hit me going 45-55 mph. Totalled my truck, sent me to hospital, I ended up being out of work so far 3 months, had to have my spine operated on and have been in a lot of pain.

Am I mad, not happy but glad I am alive and the passenger with me is still recovering.

I used to buy intot he "recreational drug user" category, but when I ended up living for the high, chasing Casper so to speak, I realized it is easy to get snagged. Then you have no idea beause your in too deep.

This is my version and yes I was there and lived the nightmare and hurt many people along the way for which I am ashamed of.


Bruce K. Cronkite

Grandpa "Not ready for prime time criticizing" Troll

[reds4ever]

Then it's not for you then. Personally, I have no problem regulating my vices...;o)

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by reds4ever
Then it's not for you then. Personally, I have no problem regulating my vices...;o)

Just asking, if you do Hard narcotics (Im not asking for a confession nor am I judging you or beating you overhead with a Bible) what is used in them will it alter your health?

I am just sharing is all

GT

[reds4ever]

To me, it's a case of "each to his own".

I don't know about altering my health but the odd line of Coke every couple of weeks isn't going to kill me (famous last words though, eh? )

[RGBVideo]

Coke every couple of weeks isn't going to kill me

I hope you already know that it rots your brain, right?

[reds4ever]

Whats a couple of hundred brain cells amongst friends?

I've got a few thousand to spare.....;O)

[RGBVideo]

oh ok just making sure after all, it's your body so it's your choice.