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  • I have new respect of ancient mariners.

    I went ocean kayaking with a few friends and friends of friends today and I'm totally beat. Don't get me wrong I had a blast but paddling all day, often against the current, has given me new respect for the ancient mariners who paddled their way across the ocean.
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    I'm still blown away by the ancient Tihitians who paddled a thousand miles to discover Hawaii.

    I can't help thinking about all the poor guys who must have paddled a thousand miles in some other direction only to die of hunger or thirst.

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    • #3
      What a pity there was only paddling in ancient times. No currents, no winds, no nothing. Just paddling, and the occasional whale nudging.

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      • #4
        Columbus used trained dolphins to push him to america.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zkribbler
          I can't help thinking about all the poor guys who must have paddled a thousand miles in some other direction only to die of hunger or thirst.
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          • #6
            Hence, caveman > astronaut
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zkribbler
              I'm still blown away by the ancient Tihitians who paddled a thousand miles to discover Hawaii.

              I can't help thinking about all the poor guys who must have paddled a thousand miles in some other direction only to die of hunger or thirst.
              Actually they were smarter than that. They could tell that there was land over the horizon from wave patterns and knew there was somewhere to go ahead of them.
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              • #8
                Columbus wasn't an ancient mariner. I was thinking more of the ancient Greeks and Romans wo had a tiny square sail and a bunch of guys like Charles Heston rowing with oars.
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                • #9
                  Being a rower during a Greek sea-battle must've been an awful experience.
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                  • #10
                    Most of them probably weren't Greek or Roman.
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                    • #11
                      Not so

                      Originally posted by DaShi
                      Most of them probably weren't Greek or Roman.
                      While the Romans used captured slave, the Greeks did not. That job was handled by the citizens of their city states. The Greeks felt the job was too important to be left to slaves (whether foreign or indiginous). In fact, the Athenians held a great state secret in their rowing technique that gave them a big advantage over their rivals at the time.
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                      • #12
                        Didn't know that.

                        But Greeks still buggered little boys!
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                        • #13
                          IIRC the Romans also did *not* use slaves most of the time...?

                          Edit: I think most "slaves" or prisoners sentenced to rowing duty where used much later, ca. 14-16 century in the Mediterranean
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DaShi
                            Didn't know that.

                            But Greeks still buggered little boys!
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                            • #15
                              So did the Romans.

                              Face it; Western civilization is founded on pederasty.
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