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  • #16
    It's from the SEPH, which is a survey of employers.
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    • #17
      But the US recovery has been slow in coming
      We are already well into expansion.

      and hasn't even managed to compare to what is simply normal growth in Canada
      Is 97,000 new jobs in one month actually normal for Canada? I'm guessing not.

      So your triumphalist threads have always struck me as more than a bit off. Crowing about a creation of 200 000 jobs in a market the size of the US is ridiculous.
      Considering that we have a tight labor market, I think it's just fine crowing about payroll growth of 200,000 and I will continue to do so. These threads aren't directed at you. Rather, they are directed at the American nattering nabobs of negativity on Poly.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by DanS


        We are already well into expansion.



        Is 97,000 new jobs in one month actually normal for Canada? I'm guessing not
        Nope, but 30 000 or so has been pretty standard for the last year

        EDIT: checked the numbers and editted down slightly
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        • #19
          How long do you think that can last, as a practical matter?
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #20
            Can't stop. Won't stop.

            We keep it real like that.
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            • #21


              The fact is that if even 30k keeps up, interest rates will go through the roof in order to squelch the resulting inflation.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DanS
                Rather, they are directed at the American nattering nabobs of negativity on Poly.
                As a native of Maryland, I would like to request that you not remind people of him.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DanS
                  Considering that we have a tight labor market...
                  Last time we had something of an argument about the tightness of the US labour market you dismissed both the participation rate and the employment rate. Recently I also noted that wages were flat in April, which indicates nothing like a thight labour market. Essentially, all you based your argument on was the absolute magnitude of US jobs growth. To you a tight labour market seems to be a given, automatically rendering any jobs growth as decent.
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                  • #24
                    thats flat out wrong - productivity can continue climbing too, keeping inflation down.
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                    • #25
                      Productivity growth isn't high enough to keep up with a monthly job growth of 30k without significant inflationary pressure.

                      I'm just pointing out that the US is hardly at a ceiling, so numbers barely above (and sometimes below) replacement rates for job growth are not particularly exciting.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
                        Last time we had something of an argument about the tightness of the US labour market you dismissed both the participation rate and the employment rate. Last time I also noted that wages were flat in April, which indicates nothing like a thight labour market. Essentially, all you based your argument on was the absolute magnitude of US jobs growth. To you a tight labour market seems to be a given, automatically rendering any jobs growth as decent.
                        My thinking on the subject is that during the late 90s, the labor market was very tight. We had a mild recession, with both modest job losses and job gains. The market has tightened since then on the back of modest job gains, and wage gains should eventually adjust upward to reflect that fact. I'll be the first to admit that the majority of these gains haven't happened yet, at least for the 80% in non-supervisory positions, and I'm surprised. I don't have an explanation.

                        It seems that you want me to look at the late 90s as the new normal. But it wasn't normal. It was more than the good times rolling.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          There's good reason not to consider employment rates prior to the 90's: until then the participation rate was strongly trending upwards due to the entrance of women into the labour market. Afterwards it more or less remained on a plateau.
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                          • #28
                            LTGTR! LTGTROFL!
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jaguar
                              LTGTR! LTGTROFL!

                              HELLZ YEAH!!!

                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #30
                                QFLTGTDY-NO-MITE!!!
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