X-Men 3 Fricken Rocked!!

[Q Classic]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I think it'll be a fun movie. I'm just not expecting to be, say, that intellectually stimulated. (X2 actually, say, activated one or two of my brain cells.)

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by OzzyKP


**** you *******.

To get away from the childish thing, a more mature response might be helpful.

[Elok]

Interesting. Everybody, please tell me more about your hopes for an intellectual and thought-provoking movie about "genetic mutations" that let you teleport, turn intangible, control the weather and shoot laser beams from your eyeballs. This should be good...

Not that I'm ragging on the movie (haven't seen it, probably won't till it hits DVD), but the premise is a little too absurd to make into more than a fun action flick. Which is all I expect from it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

For comparison's sake, rottentomatoes ratings:

X-Men 3 - 58%
X-Men 2 - 87%
X-Men 1 - 80%

I agree with Q that it'll be fun, but not nearly as good as the previous two.

[Verto]

X-Men 3 was the worst of them all. No character development, nothing done with the Phoenix, etc. Shoddy.

[Starchild]

I was not impressed.

Spoiler:

There was a persistant feel though the movie that it wasn't quite right. The dialogue was hit or miss and combined with a new director obviously trying to follow in the footsteps of the previous one, gave the impression that the movie wasn't quite living up to its predecessors.

It started off fine enough, raising the moral and ethical problems Xmen is famous for. Is it right to develop a "cure" for something that's not actually an illness? On the other hand, does anyone have any right to deny that cure from the people that desperately want it (ie, Rogue). Given the danger of some mutants and their powers, is it just to develop a medicine into a weapon?

I'm let down by how little Rogue was actually used in this film, since she's the utlimate tragic character and had major roles in the two previous ones. Where was the focus on what must be her struggle to decide between being who she is and the basic human urge to touch someone else?

Magneto's war makes sense. Its been building over the last two movies that the conflict between mutant and humans would come to a head eventually. The first and potentially last shot was avoided in Xmen 2 but it didn't remove the underlying problems that were building. With the development of the cure, mankind gave Magneto the catalyst to declare open warfare.

But oh, the misuse of the Pheonix. This entity that is supposed to be enthralled with the dark desire of the flesh after years behind a psychic prison spent most of the movie....standing around. You'd think that at any point, she'd get bored, wipe out Magneto's army with a thought and then go indulge herself a bit. But nooooo.

Kudos for killing off people left right and centre. At least you can recognise when you've got a weak character that's not going to do much with the way its written.

And I'm sorry...what was the point of the Golden Gate Bridge scene? I got the impression it was going to be an apocalyptic battle with stuff being thrown back and forth. Not a fancy way of reminding us that Magneto is really really good with metal things.

Bleh, I finally got that rant out of my system. My friend who I saw it with loved it and no one else has seen it yet!

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
Oh, don't get me wrong. I think it'll be a fun movie. I'm just not expecting to be, say, that intellectually stimulated. (X2 actually, say, activated one or two of my brain cells.)

Oh I definitely think it was intellectually stimulating - on the level of X2.

Spoiler:

There is a powerful scene where a young Angel is trying to slice off his wings before his father sees them. Far deeper than the cheesy "have you tried not being a mutant" from X2. The dynamic between Angel and his father was very well done.

The ethical implications of the cure were very well developed in the film and posed many questions to us.

Also the implications of massive power were made a point of in the movie and well done. Especially in the light of Phoenix's emergence. The whole dynamic of Phoenix with what Professor X did to her to control her darker side and surpress her powers raised even more ethical questions. There were some good exchanges between Xavier & Magneto, and Xavier & Wolverine about his handling of Jean.

Just like X2, X3 leaves us in a murky gray area where there is no black & white good vs. evil set-up like most Hollywood movies. We see darker methods from the "good guys" and noble goals from the "bad guys".

The choice Rogue had of taking the cure so she could live a normal live - while not developed as well as it could have been, like Verto said - I think was still thought provoking and for as much of it as was included, was well done.

[Winston]

Intellectually stimulating or not, I didn't like how they all died in the end by having that plane full of snakes crash on them.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Lorizael
To get away from the childish thing, a more mature response might be helpful.

He made a personal attack and I responded in kind. Considering he made an entirely unnecessary and biting personal attack for no reason whatsoever except to insult me for expressing my opinion my response was more than justified. Things would have definitely gotten heated if he had the balls to say that **** to my face. An appropriate response would have him walking away with a black eye.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by OzzyKP


He made a personal attack and I responded in kind. Considering he made an entirely unnecessary and biting personal attack for no reason whatsoever except to insult me for expressing my opinion my response was more than justified. Things would have definitely gotten heated if he had the balls to say that **** to my face. An appropriate response would have him walking away with a black eye.

threadjack...

Except that your response doesn't help anything in any way. You can walk away, tell him not to say such things, report him to the moderators, or do any number of other things that don't involve resorting to immature namecalling.

/threadjack

I can't wait to see this movie. I want it to be good, but I fear the loss of Singer. I'm also a little annoyed that the Uptown (the biggest and best theater in the area) is playing MI:3 instead of X-Men.

[Imran Siddiqui]

About the 'spat', Overreact much?

[Lorizael]

I always try to overreact. Especially on the internet.

[FrostyBoy]

I liked it.

character development is nice, but since X-Men is not something I am interested in, I prefer to just see the action and see main characters get killed.

Character Development I reserve for Superman.

Half the time I wish Superman would fly down and kick those mutants arses; which of course he could do without any of them even realising it before he's done it. hahaha!

And yes, the crowed "wow'd" at the bullet hitting supermans eye during the previews. Chills.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Lorizael
I always try to overreact. Especially on the internet.

But I wasn't referring to you... you have to try harder .

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


But I wasn't referring to you... you have to try harder .

See, I even react to things I'm not supposed to react to.