Double Amputee climbs everest...and passes by dying man w/o helping.

[Cyclotron]

Why would you be packing heat in the first place? I mean, I'm man enough to strangle the Yeti with my bare hands.

[BlackCat]

Well, I think that KH only knows two ways to treat a trigger - "it wanted me to pull it" and ""i wanted to pull it".

[Colon™]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
If I'd been there I would have shortcircuited this whole discussion by shooting him myself.

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Then we'd started another thread about the question it was legitimate of you to shoot him for the sake of stopping this discussion.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
The idiot went up without Sherpas and was going to die no matter what. What, do you stop every time you see an accident on the side of the road to help?

I don't believe that is true. What would have been required would have been for someone to abandon their expedition, share their oxigen with the man, and help him decend. I suspect the others didn't do that because all of them had been planning their expeditions for years, spent tens of thousands of dollars, and weeks of their lives to reach that point so they didn't want to give up in order to prevent a stranger from dying.

It is understandable but no less dispicable. All 40 should be charge with failing to render aid to a person in need, given a nice fair trial, then spend the next two decades rotting in prison.

[Imran Siddiqui]

All 40 should be charge with failing to render aid to a person in need, given a nice fair trial, then spend the next two decades rotting in prison.

You think they got that law on the books in Nepal? Because, you know, they sure as Hell don't in any state in the US.

And how do you know that the expeditioners all just said, our expedition is more important rather than realizing he'll die no matter what we do, since he's had no oxygen for a while and has no gloves? It's like you've already declared them guilty then assumed the facts .

[Colon™]

There are plenty of cases of people rescued who's chances had been believe to have been all but zero. Take those miners in Tasmania recently, how many chances out of million would there have been that they would have made it? One? Two? And yet they searched after them for 5 days.
I also recall a case in Kashmir of an elderly lady that was taken out of the rubble of a collapsed building two WEEKS after the earthquake. How many big a chance would have been for that? About the same as for the mountaineer?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Wow. So you are throwing stones at people for not saving someone who may have had, what a 1% chance of living (or lower)? And it wasn't like it was easy to go and try to save him either.

[Skanky Burns]

Why should the group have risked their life for someone who didn't value their life enough to take even basic precautions? It was basically guaranteed he was dead, why should others die for this one person's stupidity?

[Colon™]

If trying to rescue the guy would have endangered their own lives, then there's a perfectly valid excuse. Unfortunately most people don't seem to arguing this was the case, rather that was good as dead anyway. Like those miners were as good as dead anyway.

You think they got that law on the books in Nepal? Because, you know, they sure as Hell don't in any state in the US.

They don't? There sure is in Belgium: anyone who refuses to help a person in need, whilst he could have done so without endangering his own or someone's life can get imprisoned for up to a year. It's not because mountaineers have this certain ethos that they should be treated differently.

[Sandman]

If anyone read that link I provided earlier, you'd have found out that a Sherpa did try to give him oxygen, and lived to tell the tale. So stop pretending that to stop and help is a death sentence.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If trying to rescue the guy would have endangered their own lives, then there's a perfectly valid excuse. Unfortunately most people don't seem to arguing this was the case, rather that was good as dead anyway.

Um... people are arguing both. Didn't you see the first page where people were saying they are on Mount freaking Everest, not in their front yards?

They don't?

Nope. There is absolutely no duty to assist unless you caused the dangerous situation yourself, or you started to help (because in doing so you may have disuaded others from helping, them thinking you already were doing it). Though some muncipalities may have some right to civil action arising out of it.

So if some man was dying with a gun shot wound in his gut from someone else, I could walk right by him and not even call for an ambulance, and I would not be prosecuted because I didn't do anything wrong.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Colon™
There are plenty of cases of people rescued who's chances had been believe to have been all but zero. Take those miners in Tasmania recently, how many chances out of million would there have been that they would have made it? One? Two? And yet they searched after them for 5 days.
I also recall a case in Kashmir of an elderly lady that was taken out of the rubble of a collapsed building two WEEKS after the earthquake. How many big a chance would have been for that? About the same as for the mountaineer?

None of your exaples does in any way compare to an Everest climb.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Wow. So you are throwing stones at people for not saving someone who may have had, what a 1% chance of living (or lower)?

I would have understood if they'd tried and failed, but to not even try is ****ty.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Richelieu
I would have understood if they'd tried and failed, but to not even try is ****ty.

Hey they were on Mount Everest. It isn't exactly a walk in the park. Simply being there is risking your life. How can you blame someone for not wanting to take an even greater risk?

And think less of me if you want, but I would have done exactly what these guys did.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And think less of me if you want, but I would have done exactly what these guys did.

You don't know that. You weren't there. Maybe your humanity would have kicked in and b**** slapped the lawyer in you!