Computer problem - Windows

[Q Classic]

Avian Flu

[Asher]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Nice to see you around and spreading your good cheer.
It's kind of like the flu.

Coincidentally, I had the flu yesterday and I'm about 90% better now.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
...I shoulda known not to poke the bee's nest, but the honey, it was so tempting!



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This is me doing the ****ing motion to the whole Windows v. Mac debate.

It looks more like two-fingered autoeroticism. Which, now that you mention it, is also an appropriate characterization of the whole Windows v. Mac debate.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Agathon


It'll solve his problem. There are quite a few mac users who post to the OT. When was the last time one of them posted about a problem they were having?

I can't remember and I would be the most likely candidate to be asked to fix it. Yet it's an odd week when there aren't at least a few "Windows is ****ing up for no apparent reason" threads in the OT.

The only Mac gripe threads I can remember are ones from Windows users who were Macnoobs and wanted to know how to do basic stuff that works a little differently on the Macintosh.

Everyone should buy a Mac now that you can dual boot Windows on it. You can use the Mac OS for everything else, and the joke OS for gaming (which is all that it is good for these days).

I hate the whole one mouse button approach. Give me my right click options as in windows and maybe I'd entertain your suggestion. If my computer were to start misbehaving first.

[Asher]

Never mind the one-mouse button approach, be more wary of Apple's growingly inept quality control and their terrible developer tools.

The terrible developer tools will not be obvious to most people directly, but it goes a long way to explaining why so few people make Mac programs.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ah, it's good to have Asher back .

[Asher]

I found this article the other day pretty fun.

http://blog.phanfare.com/2005/10/xcode-vs-visual-studio/

And some pictures comparing Visual Studio and XCode as well:
Visual Studio: http://blogmedia.phanfare.com/album/15804/15805/677597
Xcode: http://blogmedia.phanfare.com/album/15804/15805/677596

And another of the articles on GUI development on MacOS vs windows: http://blog.phanfare.com/2005/10/gui...mac-vs-the-pc/

Procedure to add a button to a GUI:

Windows:

1. Drag a button onto the window
2. Double click the button
3. Write code

MacOS:

1. In Xcode, go to your window controller header file, add two lines for your outlet and action
2. Switch to Interface Builder
3. Drag a button onto the window
4. Change tab to the class browser
5. Find your window controller and re-read the file to get your updates
6. Change back to the object browser
7. Apple-drag from the window controller instance to the button
8. Select the outlet you defined before and click 'Connect'
9. Apple-drag the button onto the window controller instance
10. Select the action you defined before and click 'Connect'
11. Switch back to Xcode and into your window controller code file
12. Add the action method definition and write code

[Solver]

Well, it wouldn't take much effort to make Visual Studio look similarly messy, just undock the docked windows, throw another undocked toolbar in, and you'll have a right mess...

[Kuciwalker]

...

Why would you go to that effort, however little?

[Asher]

But you can't dock them in Xcode...

The whole point is Apple's windowing paradigm is bat**** crazy for complex work environments.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Geronimo

I hate the whole one mouse button approach. Give me my right click options as in windows and maybe I'd entertain your suggestion. If my computer were to start misbehaving first.

Have you been living in a cave?

And who let the "nadless loser" out?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon


Have you been living in a cave?

Last time I checked, both the MacBook and MacBook Pro have only one button on the trackpad. Even though it's insultingly wide.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Agathon




Have you been living in a cave?

And who let the "nadless loser" out?

I work with fairly new macs and fairly new PCs at work. I wasn't involved in the decision to purchase either of them so maybe other options were available for the mac, but I *hate* the mice on all of the macs. Next time I go through the mall I'll stop in the apple store and ask for a demonstration of implementation of 2 button OS approach on a mac.

As to your second line if it is directed at me are you sure you aren't mistaking me for someone else?

[Agathon]

Not you.

A demonstration of a two button mouse on OS X involves plugging the mouse into a USB port and using it.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Agathon
Not you.

A demonstration of a two button mouse on OS X involves plugging the mouse into a USB port and using it.

To clarify, not only will the mac automatically detect and accept input from the mac two button mouse (I actually had already assumed that much) but the OS will actually make use of each button input in a way at least as good as windows does? I always immediately miss the ability to right click on things for additional functionality when I'm using the macs at work.

If I right click on say a folder does it do anything useful?