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  • #16
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


    What, you mean the "Christian sentiment" that Christianity shouldn't be a basis for government anymore?
    Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.

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    • #17
      I think the Bible needs to have a disclaimer on Ian McKellen.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Vesayen
        The majority of the christian bible was written in the 2nd and 3rd centuries. All the apostles were long dead, the writers did not witness anything.
        It is well established that the New Testament was written before 100AD.
        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
        G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SlowwHand
          I think the Bible needs to have a disclaimer on Ian McKellen.
          If you search through enough character skipping permutations you'll likely find it.

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          • #20
            I disagree with Ian McKellen.



















            He said this:
            "And I think audiences are clever enough and bright enough to separate out fact and fiction"
            Not so much.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              Wow.

              Ian McKellen's gay.
              B♭3

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              • #22
                If Jesus wasn't married, why was he supplying wine at a wedding? Thats the job of the bridegroom, not a guest.

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                • #23
                  There's nothing wrong with the Bible, just with the people who believe what it says.

                  We need to strip the vote from them. That'll sort out the world's problems.
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by The diplomat


                    It is well established that the New Testament was written before 100AD.

                    The source (or quelle) of the gospels was indeed written before 100 AD. However, none of the gospels were. And up until today, the quelle has NOT been found.

                    And THAT is well established.

                    The bible has been written and rewritten/translated/... by ordinary men countless times over a span of houndred years. Therefore it should not be taken at face value. In addition if something of the original works still remains it was written in a period when people had an entirely different mindset about things. So how can you take anything at face value?

                    Another thing: did you know that the hebrew word for prophet can also be translated as "son of god" ?
                    Or so I have been told. Perhaps people with more knowledge (meaning jewish people) could correct me.
                    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                    • #25
                      Re: Ian McKellen says Bible should have Fiction Disclaimer

                      Originally posted by Lonestar
                      Haha


                      Don't they stone people in the US for saying things like that?
                      "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                      -Joan Robinson

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                      • #26
                        A Holy Book is always symbolic, even if it just tells an event.

                        Do you think Christians believe God got tired because He created and, so, He rested?

                        Best regards,

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                        • #27
                          You'd be surprised how many people believe that the Bible is the literal word of God. Of course, you have to go to the US to find them first
                          "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
                          -Joan Robinson

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                          • #28
                            HA HA Ian Mckellen you genius! Fiction, on the Bible? That's so much more insulting than pathetic blashemy.

                            However, it isn't fair, Dan Brown said his book was Fiction, no one said the Bible was Fiction, but was anything back then Fiction?? What it should say on the Bible is "May or may not be true".
                            be free

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by The diplomat
                              It is well established that the New Testament was written before 100AD.
                              The NT was not written by a single author. Rather, it's a collection of books picked from a much wider group available back then, in 392CE IIRC. There are a whole lot of gospels that were not included, including that latest discovery, the Gospel of Judas.
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                              • #30
                                My shot at it:

                                DISCLAIMER
                                Absolutely nothing in this book can be proven to be true.
                                Most of it was written by unidentified authors.
                                Those authors who are identifiable may or may not have
                                wintessed the events they write about, but at any rate
                                were a bunch of illiterate peasants from a minor
                                outpost of an ancient empire, who were recalling the
                                events 25-50 years after they supposedly happened,
                                and were doing so because they had a very specific
                                agenda.

                                Also, this book, which some people claim to be literally
                                true, contradicts itself repeatedly.

                                On the other hand, it contains enough sex and violence
                                to make a Grand Theft Auto game look like a children's
                                bedtime story -- so, enjoy!
                                "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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