Apparently the US has no right to enforce it's borders.

[MrFun]

In other news, SlowwHand has the most redundant sig of all Apolytoners!!

[SlowwHand]

No it's not, you meathead.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
Mexico isn't a third world country. Far from it, its one of the richest countries in the world (granted, thats one of the criticisms anti-immigrants have).

My point was that it's silly to post a nice picture of a place as evidence of how great it is. You could do that with just about any country.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
In what way? If anything a huge influx of ilegals becoming legal offer huge recruiting opportunities for unions. My thought is unions are salivating at the opportunity to tap huge numbers of under priveledged workers.

And since its all about the benjamins when it comes to unions, it stands to reason they are looking at this as a bonanza.

There is a problem, of course. As the illegals wages rise, their jobs vanish.

[Ned]

Which, of course, gives us a clue as to why the Dems favor amnesty.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Yeah but unions don't look for the long term they need to stop their bleeding (membership losses) right now.

[Ned]

You really believe the unions will accept millions of illegals into their ranks?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

They'll take whatever they can get at this point. Previously frightened illegals afraid to unionize for fear of deportation all of a sudden become very inviting union targets once their status becomes more stable. Doesn't have to be a 100% thing. Unions would be pretty happy with a 10% (extra million or two members) share.

[Ned]

Again, I think there is a real disconnect here. These illegals have jobs only b/c they work for less. Who would hire a person who doesn't even speak English if they had to pay them union wages?

This so-called legalization may actually lead to a mass exodus.

[dannubis]

well, why would they leave if (and only if) they have a job here which i the only reason why they came in the first place?

and it's not because you are with a union your wages are going to improve all of the sudden. they will find a way around that, believe me...

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Caligastia


My point was that it's silly to post a nice picture of a place as evidence of how great it is. You could do that with just about any country.

Mexico rox my sox. Period.

[Caligastia]

That's because you have money.

[Ned]

Originally posted by dannubis
well, why would they leave if (and only if) they have a job here which i the only reason why they came in the first place?

and it's not because you are with a union your wages are going to improve all of the sudden. they will find a way around that, believe me...

Agreed. Wages will rise as everything becomes legal. But, as the wages rise, the jobs themselves will vanish.

The only solution would be for a fresh wave of new illegals who would be willing to work for less.

[Kidlicious]

How did we get on this track? There already is a farm workers union.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ned
Agreed. Wages will rise as everything becomes legal. But, as the wages rise, the jobs themselves will vanish.

BS!. As wages rise, more money circulates in the economy, driving up demand for more workers. This happens every single time there's a raise in the minimum wage. At a certain point, the Fed steps in and ratchets up interest rates to raise unemployment so wages will fall again. Again, this is history. It happens every single time, despite the GOP lies of rising wages causing people to lose their jobs.

God, what a crock of **** you serve.