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And the train would most likely be on time.
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Yep. The shinkansen is awesome, despite its expense.
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Nope. The ladies bring the food carts by quite often.KH FOR OWNER!
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The TGV is barely slower than the Shinkansen, and it's twice as cheap
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Drake, I believe train operators have been private in Japan since the 80's. Do they get subsidized?DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Subsidies?Originally posted by Spiffor
The TGV is barely slower than the Shinkansen, and it's twice as cheap
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p.s. Of course, IIRC Amtrak is subsidized, for all the good THAT does.grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
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Drake, I believe train operators have been private in Japan since the 80's. Do they get subsidized?
I'm not sure. I've been looking for information on the economics of the shinkansen and TGV for a few minutes now, but I'm coming away empty-handed so far...
edit: This would seem to indicate that the only subsidies the shinkansen gets are those used to help build new track. This indicates that that was a substantial amount of money in the past, although it may not be so now considering the modest amounts of new track that are being planned. The day-to-day operations of the shinkansen seem very profitable.Last edited by Drake Tungsten; April 27, 2006, 12:33.KH FOR OWNER!
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This text also doesn't seem to indicate any (operation) subsidies: http://www.japanesestudies.org.uk/di...pers/Hood.html
Successful Privatisation
Japan National Railways (JNR) was privatised in 1987. Central to the reform was trying to ensure that the companies could be financially viable. Therefore, the three main companies on the main island of Honshu were each given a part of the profitable shinkansen network that could be used to cross-subsidise the less profitable, and often rural, lines that were also to become part of their franchise. Japan was therefore divided up into six regional blocks - East, Central and West on Honshu, then also Hokkaido, Shikoku and Kykshu. On top of this, one freight company was also created. It should be remembered at this point that there are numerous fully private regional railway companies as well, that remain wholly separate from Japan Railways (JR). A key point to note - in comparison to the situation in Britain - is that the operating companies also own the lines, trains, stations and so on. This ensures total responsibility is taken by one company and that intermediary companies are not each trying to make a profit, which translates itself into high ticket prices. On top of this, it should also be noted that companies have been looking to make money outside the 'normal' channels of the rail industry - most notably JR Tokai's ownership of the 'Matsuri' Japanese restaurant in London.
Although the government continues to have a sizable holding in many of these companies, the 'privatisation' of JNR is seen by some as the most significant moment in Japan's railway history. Although the companies are still burdened with huge debts from the JNR days, the Honshu companies at least are now profitable and it cannot be doubted that the attitude and performance of the rail industry as a whole has improved greatly. As far as the shinkansen is concerned, since privatisation we have seen the development of new models and the continued expansion of the shinkansen network.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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Barring an attack by Godzilla or any other mutant creature.Originally posted by Arrian
And the train would most likely be on time.
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That's not ridiculous, unless you live in EU leeching Greece where everything is paid by the rest of the Europe.
So no Alice... that's what the trains do cost.
But please, don't leave EU
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They got cheap train, but expensive planes. In the end it all evens out.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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OTOH we have expensive trains and expensive planes. At the end it evens out because no one can afford to travel
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Exactly. We have to keep the Fins in Finland! Imagine the alternative! DEAR GOD MAN!
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