In a word, it has come to pass that this once-great country, the country that Benjamin Disraeli so proudly served, and many other noble God-fearing Jews, has been turned into a Muhammadan cesspool of vice and dirt.
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Son of Davis, Satanic Doctrine? Is that like a legal book of rules, where can I buy this book?
Also, for 12 and 14 year old girls to have children, how did they manage? Or did they have boyfriends? And if so, yeah, that's not normal or natural.
I was talking about kids who are the same age, who experiments with each other. THat's normal. They're just curious.In da butt.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Ironically, Disraeli spent much of his early life writing smutty romance novels. Nor would it be particularly accurate to call him a 'God-fearing Jew', since he was a baptised Anglican.
Karl Marx's dad converted his whole family to the religion of the cross just so he could get a job as a lawyer. Such things were commonplace throughout the 19th century in Western Europe.
What's your point?
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Originally posted by Pekka
I was talking about kids who are the same age, who experiments with each other. THat's normal. They're just curious.
The source of that 'curiosity' is, unfortunately, not biological - but induced into their minds through seeing thinly-veiled pornography on television and Satanic messages in their pop songs.
And of course, through contact with other children at school, whose parents have been unable to restrict such material from their own children.
But in this day and age, it is not uncommon for children to be sexualized well before they are 16.
This is different from any other period in history. The ancient Greeks were pederasts, but they did not have homosexual sex with children. Young men certainly, but not with little children.
Our European society is seriously sick ....
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OhboyOhboy - you really don't have the faintest idea about this - is it you religious belifs that makes you think that all this BS is for real ?Originally posted by Son of David
The source of that 'curiosity' is, unfortunately, not biological - but induced into their minds through seeing thinly-veiled pornography on television and Satanic messages in their pop songs.
And of course, through contact with other children at school, whose parents have been unable to restrict such material from their own children.
But in this day and age, it is not uncommon for children to be sexualized well before they are 16.
This is different from any other period in history. The ancient Greeks were pederasts, but they did not have homosexual sex with children. Young men certainly, but not with little children.
Our European society is seriously sick ....
In ANY other period of history it has been very coomon to take 14 year old girls as brides - actually as soon as they become fertile. Such behaviour is quite common until maybe some 50 to 100 years ago depending on where you lived.
What kind of fantsy world are you living in ?
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Ehrm, I actually think that he is seriousOriginally posted by Pekka
I would be worried if I thought you were serious
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by BlackCat
In ANY other period of history it has been very coomon to take 14 year old girls as brides - actually as soon as they become fertile. Such behaviour is quite common until maybe some 50 to 100 years ago depending on where you lived.
Hmm. Interesting.
So what do you think changed all that?
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Nice tryOriginally posted by Son of David
Hmm. Interesting.
So what do you think changed all that?
- better living conditions witch meant that your 13 year old sons didn't have to find their own way of living or that girls at same age didn't have to marry some older man.
It was actually quite common to let young gils marry "older" mens simply to give them a chance to survive if you go just a hundred or two years back.
The change was purely manmade by industrialisation etc and certainly not by religion. We are still drawing that lump of iron on our feet, but fortunatedly it is dying out.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by BlackCat
The change was purely manmade by industrialisation etc and certainly not by religion. We are still drawing that lump of iron on our feet, but fortunatedly it is dying out.
It's very easy for someone to say that industrialization and 'modernization' are better than religion - after all, you weren't alive when the capitalists were herding the agrarian peoples into the cities at the start of it all.
I'm pretty sure most people today aren't more spiritually fulfilled than people alive thousands of years ago. In fact, decidedly less so.
So don't argue with me that 'modernity' is synonymous with 'progress' because I am not vain enough to believe that.
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actually I can't blame him for that. Islam is a stupid religion. I don't care how un-PC it is. I refuse to accept their treatment of women.Originally posted by BlackCat
It seems that our little jewish boy whining about antisemitism actually is a real islamophobe
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we may not be more spiritually fulfilled, but we do have better moral values. Atrocities used to be the norm, but they are slowly being considered unacceptable.Originally posted by Son of David
It's very easy for someone to say that industrialization and 'modernization' are better than religion - after all, you weren't alive when the capitalists were herding the agrarian peoples into the cities at the start of it all.
I'm pretty sure most people today aren't more spiritually fulfilled than people alive thousands of years ago. In fact, decidedly less so.
So don't argue with me that 'modernity' is synonymous with 'progress' because I am not vain enough to believe that.
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Well, it has actually risen the average lifetime some years when capitalism was reined - compared to what religion could achive before that, it actually is a quite good bargain.Originally posted by Son of David
It's very easy for someone to say that industrialization and 'modernization' are better than religion - after all, you weren't alive when the capitalists were herding the agrarian peoples into the cities at the start of it all.
If you by this mean that they no longer abide to some supersticious belifef, then you are quite right and I pray to god that it will continue in this way.I'm pretty sure most people today aren't more spiritually fulfilled than people alive thousands of years ago. In fact, decidedly less so.
That is only because you see a change as an assault on your religious belief. Isn't it a little scary that only scientific progress has made it better to be a human being while religion has done it's best to destroy such improvements ?So don't argue with me that 'modernity' is synonymous with 'progress' because I am not vain enough to believe that.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Well, wouldn't you rather live slightly less but as a free human being, living a wholesome life with family and children, following God's laws, than live for longer in squalid, overcrowded city conditions, with no vision, no purpose in life?
Unfortunately the industrialization process has forced many people into taking the latter option, but human beings above all have spiritual needs, and when these needs cannot be fulfilled they will turn to destructive behaviours and other activities to dull their senses.
Really, most people today are slaves to the economic system. Hopelessly enslaved.
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