Fundie Mormons going the way of the Branch Dravidians.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Japher
polygamy arose in the Mormon faith as way to increase their numbers and to give more hands to work the barren wasteland that is Salt Lake City.

I thought it was because they never learned the art of wham bam thank you mam.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Japher
Tuberski is our new mormon?

Well with Tassadar gone we needed someone.

[Japher]

are long lost mormon

[Thorn]

I was born in Utah, I'm glad I don't live there anymore.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

WTF Tuber is a mormon!!!!
He has lots of splaning to do now
Now i have to tell our catholc pope i have sinned dammit that sucks.

[Patroklos]

Yeah, that Catholic Pope is not nearly as understanding as the Protestant one.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Yeah, that Catholic Pope is not nearly as understanding as the Protestant one.

you got me!!!
i meant priest but saw a news break for the pope and typed pope.

[Elok]

I thought polygamy was illegal because:

A. Abandonment/exile/murder of young men is the inevitable consequence if there are to be enough wives to go around, and to discourage affairs.
B. When all the wives are expected to stay home and care for/churn out kids, there's basically no way for one man to provide for all of his "families."
C. Very few women with any sense at all want "shared" husbands (yay, sex once a week, plus minimal commitment from your man!), so coercion is usually involved.

[Pekka]

Mrs Tubes, wait.. you don't happen to be boy and under 10 years old? Me thinks you might not be forgiven..

[Patroklos]

When do we get to start buring Mormons

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Elok
I thought polygamy was illegal because:

A. Abandonment/exile/murder of young men is the inevitable consequence if there are to be enough wives to go around, and to discourage affairs.
B. When all the wives are expected to stay home and care for/churn out kids, there's basically no way for one man to provide for all of his "families."
C. Very few women with any sense at all want "shared" husbands (yay, sex once a week, plus minimal commitment from your man!), so coercion is usually involved.

It's mostly illegal because the federal government thought it was 'icky' (yes, that is the technical, legal term ).

[Barnabas]

Dravidian like the language family?


what?!?

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Dravidian like the language family?


what?!?

Branch Davidians

ACK!

[Berzerker]

• Peace Officer Standards and Training groups in Utah and Arizona are warning police in Hildale and Colorado City they could be decertified if they practice polygamy or refuse to enforce legal action against the group.

Mind your own damn business until other cops stop enforcing laws selectively. The notion some politicos hundreds of miles away get to choose my local sheriff doesn't fly.

• A Utah court last year appointed Salt Lake City accountant Bruce Wisan to oversee the assets of the fundamentalist church's trust, estimated at $110 million, to keep the money from being drained away by Jeffs and his inner circle.

******* thieves are "protecting" the money...from the owners

Btw, the SCOTUS said back in the 1870s that polygamy was not protected under the religious liberty clause of the 1st Amendment because our religious liberty is limited to thought or conscience. Thats what the court did to uphold a ban on polygamy, they turned the 1st Amendment on its head and gave us a law that atheistic communists could embrace - you can think what you like about God, you just can't do anything else like read a book, go to church, sing a hymn, or be baptised... without permission from Congress.

[Tuberski]

These Mormon fundies are nothing Compared to Ervil LeBaron:

Ervil Morrell LeBaron (1925 to August 16, 1981) was the leader of a polygamous Mormon fundamentalist group who ordered the killings of many of his opponents. He is considered by many to have been a serial killer, justifying his actions with the doctrine of blood atonement. He had 13 wives in a plural marriage, several of whom he married while they were still underage.

History
After the mainstream Mormon church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, officially abandoned the practice of polygamy in 1890, some polygamous Mormons who wished to continue the practice, without the interference of U.S. law enforcement, moved south to Mexico. Alma Dayer LeBaron was one of these people, and in 1924 moved his family, which included his two wives and eight children, to northern Mexico. There, the family started a farm called Colonia LeBaron in Galeana, Chihuahua

When Alma died in 1951, he passed the leadership of the community on to his son Joel LeBaron. Joel eventually incorporated the community as the Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Times in Salt Lake City, Utah. His younger brother, Ervil LeBaron, was the elder LeBaron's second in command during the early years of the church's existence. The group ultimately numbered around 30 families who lived in both Utah and a community called "Los Molinos" on the Baja California Peninsula.

Killings
In 1972, the brothers split over leadership of the church and Ervil started a new church in San Diego, California, the Church of the Lamb of God. That same year, he ordered the killing of his brother in Mexico. Leadership of the Baja California church passed to the youngest LeBaron brother, Verlan, whom Ervil unsuccessfully tried to have killed over the next decade. Ervil was tried in Mexico for the murder of Joel in 1974, but the ruling was overturned on a technicality. Ervil subsequently raided Los Molinos in an attempt to kill Verlan, who was not at home, but the town was destroyed and two men were killed in the process.

Ervil LeBaron's attention was also focused on rival polygamous leaders. In April 1975, he ordered the killing of Bob Simons, a polygamous Mormon who ministered to Native Americans. LeBaron's 10th wife, Vonda White, carried out several murders on her husband's orders. She is believed to have killed Noemi Zarate, the wife of one of LeBaron's close associates who became critical of LeBaron's practices. White also killed Dean Grover Vest, one of LeBaron's henchman who attempted to leave the church that year. White was later sentenced to life in prison for the Vest murder. LeBaron has also been linked to death of his daughter Rebecca, who spoke out against the group.

In 1977, LeBaron ordered the killing of Rulon C. Allred, leader of another group of Polygamous Mormon Fundamentalists called the Apostolic United Brethren. LeBaron's 13th wife, Rena Chynoweth, and another woman, Ramona Marston, carried out the murder. Rena Chynoweth was later tried and then acquitted for Allred's murder. In 1990, Chynoweth wrote a book, The Blood Covenant, about her experiences in LeBaron's group, which she characterized as using mind control and fear to control its followers.

On June 1, 1979, LeBaron was apprehended by police in Mexico and was extradited to the United States where he was convicted of having ordered Allred's death. He was sentenced to life in prison in 1980, and died a year later.

Aftermath
While in prison, LeBaron continued to order his remaining followers to murder his opponents, including some of his wives and children. It has estimated that upwards of 25 people were killed as result of LeBaron's prison-cell orders. Many of his family members and other ex-members of the group still remain in hiding for fear of retribution from LeBaron's remaining followers. Several of his followers have been convicted for murder, while others are still on the run.

Now, he and his son, were nasty pieces of work.

ACK!