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"Scripture also says 'Render unto Caesar what Caesar demands.' And right now, Caesar demands a building permit," County Commission Chairman Mike Whitehead said.
That isn't what Jesus said, much less meant. He was asked about taxes and he looked at the image of Caesar on a coin and said, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". He was not telling his followers to apply for the job of Caesar nor was it a blessing to do what Caesar demands. "Hey, go slaughter your first born, Caesar demands it".
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Originally posted by Berzerker
That isn't what Jesus said, much less meant. He was asked about taxes and he looked at the image of Caesar on a coin and said, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". He was not telling his followers to apply for the job of Caesar nor was it a blessing to do what Caesar demands. "Hey, go slaughter your first born, Caesar demands it".
Supposedly Jesus pointed out that a person needs to follow earthly laws when he's still on this planet.
Don't be a fundie, Berz. That's bad.
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That isn't what Jesus said, much less meant. He was asked about taxes and he looked at the image of Caesar on a coin and said, "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". He was not telling his followers to apply for the job of Caesar nor was it a blessing to do what Caesar demands. "Hey, go slaughter your first born, Caesar demands it".
Ummmm isnt the traditionalist view that this means your bound to follow earthly laws.... the second part of the quote is "And render under [the man upstairs] what is [the man upstairs]".
Its about the conflict between secular authorities and divine demands....... Jesus said to work it out and do both.
Supposedly Jesus pointed out that a person needs to follow earthly laws when he's still on this planet.
Don't be a fundie, Berz. That's bad.
Can you do better than "supposedly"?
Ummmm isnt the traditionalist view that this means your bound to follow earthly laws.... the second part of the quote is "And render under [the man upstairs] what is [the man upstairs]".
Its about the conflict between secular authorities and divine demands....... Jesus said to work it out and do both.
And if Caesar demanded Christians sacrifice their first-born to Jupiter, they should do it according to Jesus? This is where your logic leads...
Err.. money was Caesers because he came from Caeser...
Your first-born is yours or God's..
JM
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Originally posted by Berzerker
Can you do better than "supposedly"?
That's how most biblical scholars interpret that passage.
Of course, fundies see it differently.
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So this guy is under persecution .. oh wait.. what if he starts to defend himself?
What if they form a group and start pre-emptively make grounds for their families, so that they won't be 'presecuted'..
In da butt.
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Originally posted by Berzerker
...so Christians are supposed to obey earthly laws or not?
depending on what the laws are...
if they deal with what is God's, than no
if they deal with what is the governments.. like the money the government prints, than yes
JM
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actually I hear fundies offering your verson quite often, more often than advising Christians to violate laws. But you didn't quote Jesus, you cited someone else's interpretation. Did Jesus tell his followers to obey the laws regardless of what that entails? No. Did Jesus obey the laws? No. Did Jesus tell his followers to violate or ignore laws? Of course. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone is an indictment of all "vice" laws at the very least if not government itself. Hell, Jesus was the Messiah - a title outlawed by Caesar.
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