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Originally posted by Ramo
****ing Mexican flags redux.
****ing Mexican flags redux.
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Seems that PR people got to them.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio -
Imran,
I'm referring to the Austin protests. I have no idea what went on in Dallas, but I've seen plenty of Mexican flags here in Austin.I saw the protest at the Dallas town hall building and there was, what, one Mexican flag?! There were a ton of American flags.
Ramo,
First off, I'm not talking about immigration barriers - if you'd been listening, I'm actually favoring more open immigration policies. I may not be in favor of removing ALL barriers - I favor fluency in English as a requirement, for example, and I do believe that border control is important, especially with global terror threats - but I do favor fairly open immigration.Immigration barriers are unlibertarian.
When I say that flags are symbols of support for illegal immigration, I'm just calling it like it is. The people waving those flags are voicing their support for people who are living here, enjoying the benefits while paying few of the costs.
Secondly, immigration barriers may be unlibertarian, but a pure libertarian state is as unrealistic a hope as an anarchist state, or a shift in the US to socialism. Ain't gonna happen, or at least no time soon. In order to promote freedom and a greater shift towards libertarianism, I've gotta support practical policies that have some hope of being supported and actually working. Hence, my support for some sort of amnesty+English+fine program.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Pictures of Austin protests:Attached FilesFollow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Another example:Attached FilesFollow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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Between Slowwhand and Floyd I think Texas holds the lead in (CPC) Crackers per CapitaWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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An article from the Austin-American Statesman:
The bill they are protesting provides a clear, if lengthy, path to legal status. This is a positive thing. It isn't racist, and it isn't unfair. It's not gonna put anyone in jail or deport anyone.
The protestors are either ignorant, or see nothing wrong with allowing illegal immigration to continue at the pace of 500,000/year, many of whom don't know and don't learn English, paying far fewer taxes than actual citizens but taking advantage of the things citizens pay for. That is far more unfair than the law itself - unfair to me.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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More pics from today:
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Waving a US flag, though, doesn't change the ignorance and/or stupidity of their protests.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Bull****. Illegal immigrants generally don't make enough to pay substantial income taxes (and often would get EITC if they were legal). They pay sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, etc. They also pay payroll taxes, and sure as hell won't get social security benefits from them.When I say that flags are symbols of support for illegal immigration, I'm just calling it like it is. The people waving those flags are voicing their support for people who are living here, enjoying the benefits while paying few of the costs.
Yeah, they're marching in support of illegal immigrants. So what? Crazy Republicans want to break up families and build a wall on the Rio Grande. They need some support."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Some do, some don't.Bull****. Illegal immigrants generally don't make enough to pay substantial income taxes (and often would get EITC if they were legal).
Believe me, there are plenty of employers that pay them cash under the table, especially people who are, shall we say, "sympathetic" to their "cause".They also pay payroll taxes, and sure as hell won't get social security benefits from them.
Huh? The Republicans' plan provides a path to legalization. If part of the family is here and part is in Mexico, they are already separated, and nothing in the bill prevents the person in the US from going back. There may be a "wall" on the Rio Grande, but there's a pretty big gate, too, and more importantly, minimal penalties, no jail time, and eventual legal status for those who choose to remain.Yeah, they're marching in support of illegal immigrants. So what? Crazy Republicans want to break up families and build a wall on the Rio Grande. They need some support.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Doesn't change the ignorance and stupidty of your racist attitude eitherOriginally posted by David Floyd
Waving a US flag, though, doesn't change the ignorance and/or stupidity of their protests.
Interesting considering Texas was a state founded by immigrants who were encouraged to come but then not only settled the land but STOLD it, by force, from Mexico
Talk about illegalWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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It's certainly not the protestors who are ignorant. What you're describing is the McCain-Kennedy Bill supported by much of the Senate. It wasn't passed by the full Senate. There was also a Senate compromise that would've basically denied a pathway to citizenship for illlegal immigrants who came in the past couple years, but it fell apart since it was seen as too light on illegal immigrants by said crazy Republicans.An article from the Austin-American Statesman:
The bill they are protesting provides a clear, if lengthy, path to legal status. This is a positive thing. It isn't racist, and it isn't unfair. It's not gonna put anyone in jail or deport anyone.
The protestors are either ignorant, or see nothing wrong with allowing illegal immigration to continue at the pace of 500,000/year, many of whom don't know and don't learn English, paying far fewer taxes than actual citizens but taking advantage of the things citizens pay for. That is far more unfair than the law itself - unfair to me.
The Bill that was passed by the House makes being an illegal immigrant a felony, and makes providing assistance to an illegal immigrant a felony. That's what they're protesting."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I don't really know why people seem to focus on the immigrants themselves and not on those that employ them. Actually enforcing and strengthening the laws against employing illegals would do alot more to solve the problem.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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LOL
Cause the people in charge are big business whores and big business whores get a free pass
duhWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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