Death penalty is damn right

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Tiamat


Normally I'm against the death penalty, but to take the life of an innocent child who has done nothing to warrant it.....well, ok then you tell me what kind of punishment you think is appropriate for this lovely little crime.

Then you're not against the death penalty, are you?

[notyoueither]

OTBOT has my number.

[Tiamat]

I don't agree with the death penalty. It's not our right to decide, I think that is God's decision, however, when it comes to the death of an innocent child then it makes me consider it.

I live in a state that is big on the death penalty and have always had a problem with it, but when it comes to children who have done nothing, that's about the only time I would consider it. For something like this I'm on the fence.

[alva]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Hogswallop.

The state can send men with guns to kill other people * snip *

Which should happen only in self defense.

[notyoueither]

I'm not on the fence.

Death is warranted in cases of severe depravity where there can be no doubt about guilt.

The problem is that 'no doubt about guilt' standard.

[Jon Miller]

I agree with you nye

and no doubt about the guilt should be more than a signed confession

JM

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Tiamat
I don't agree with the death penalty. It's not our right to decide, I think that is God's decision

So what if you don't believe in God and don't agree with the death penalty?

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by reds4ever


So what if you don't believe in God and don't agree with the death penalty?

God doesn't make the laws here on earth, man does. We made a system of checks and balances if you will according to the law of God, or percieved law of a perceived God. But it's up to us to enforce them. He doesn't come down with a lightning bolt and zap us when we do wrong. The judge does.

Question: What would you do to those people who smashed that little boys head in with a shovel? What punishment would be correct in this case?

[TCO]

hang them.

[reds4ever]

If I believed in the death penality, I'd execute them. I wouldn't expect a non-existant God to do it for me.

I feel it's enough to incarcerate the killers for life.

[SlowwHand]

It is the right of society to determine acceptable behavior, and the penalties for unacceptable behavior.
Again, it's not vengeance, it's punishment.

[Tiamat]

At the taxpayers expense correct. So if these people are fairly youngish then they can expect to pay for them for at least the next 30 to 40 years which would probably add up to the hundreds of thousands. Yup, roof over their head, 3 meals a day and they get to keep breathing. Sounds like a fair trade off for the life of a young child who will never have a roof over his head, no more meals and oh yeah.....no breath because he's DEAD!

[alva]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
It is the right of society to determine acceptable behavior, and the penalties for unacceptable behavior.
Again, it's not vengeance, it's punishment.

It also says something about that society.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Tiamat
At the taxpayers expense correct. So if these people are fairly youngish then they can expect to pay for them for at least the next 30 to 40 years which would probably add up to the hundreds of thousands. Yup, roof over their head, 3 meals a day and they get to keep breathing.

Maybe thats the price we pay for living in a civilized society?

[alva]

Originally posted by Tiamat
At the taxpayers expense correct. So if these people are fairly youngish then they can expect to pay for them for at least the next 30 to 40 years which would probably add up to the hundreds of thousands. Yup, roof over their head, 3 meals a day and they get to keep breathing. Sounds like a fair trade off for the life of a young child who will never have a roof over his head, no more meals and oh yeah.....no breath because he's DEAD!

That's the price we pay for being civilised ( or at least; an attempt to being so.).

Also, not everything decision should be made based on money.
That's something you quite often see when talking to Americans, compared to other nations.