French labour laws trigger immense protests

[Az]

national debt is defined as government debt at all levels. I may not agree with this definition, but this is how this goes.

And how about comparison to other countries in the world?

[Alexander's Horse]

whatever, they're broke and that's why there is labour reform

[Az]

Awesome reasoning.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
firstly the youth unemployment rate is a bit of a myth because most youth are still studying up to say 22, those unemployed are a small fraction of the total age group, which is why you get a high number

As stated earlier students are not part of the count. These are numbers of people who are out of school and actively looking for jobs.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I'm talking about total debt, he's talking about government debt

You're imagining things that aren't there.

[VetLegion]

I'd say that youth unemployment is more of a lifestyle thing.

How many French students finish their studies by the age of 22?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Az
national debt is defined as government debt at all levels. I may not agree with this definition, but this is how this goes.

Some sort of link for that? I'm thinking national debt is debt held by the national government while the debt of states, counties, and cities would not be included. No doubt that including such a debt would explode the figure but show a better total debt estimate.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by VetLegion
I'd say that youth unemployment is more of a lifestyle thing.

How many French students finish their studies by the age of 22?

Not sure but apparently 20%-25% of them who do finish before 26 end up unemployed at any given time.

Well... That number also includes tose who never went to college or who dropped out.

[Colon™]

The terms "national debt", "government debt" and "public debt" are usually used as synonyms, meaning the debt of all levels of government.

[DanS]

High unemployment is an injustice and the policies that create it are well known. I wonder why the French left are so keen to defend those policies?

I dislike Villepin -- a real ********er. But at least he is on the right side of justice on this one.

[Imran Siddiqui]

High unemployment is an injustice and the policies that create it are well known. I wonder why the French left are so keen to defend those policies?

It couldn't be to keep them as a political base, could it Dan?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
No sane company is going to just hire a worker and then sack him/her without a real economic reason to do so.

Do you never look around at what happens in America? If the company isn't performing as the Wall Street wonks want it, they force layoffs, even if the company is profitable (or taking a ooss because of capital improvements, etc.). Wham, 25,000 layoffs. Is Verizon doing poorly? They just laid off 25K people. Your arugment is BS.

[chequita guevara]

Yeah, well, we always forget to compare youth underempoloyment in America. Not making enough money is virtually the same as not making any money when it comes to having a place to live or transportation. Sure, you can keep your utilities on if you make a small payment (assuming you have a place) and you can buy some food, and there is a netowrk of church based charities to help you find God if you want some food for your kids (the real reason behind faith-based subsidies).

It's tough to be a youth anywhere, and it isn't anywhere near as easy in America as libertyrants like to think.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
No sane company is going to just hire a worker and then sack him/her without a real economic reason to do so.

Do you never look around at what happens in America? If the company isn't performing as the Wall Street wonks want it, they force layoffs, even if the company is profitable (or taking a ooss because of capital improvements, etc.). Wham, 25,000 layoffs. Is Verizon doing poorly? They just laid off 25K people. Your arugment is BS.

How many of those are recent hires? A company that goes through all the effort and cost of hiring and training someone only to give them the boot right after is wasting money.

Particular market circumstances might compel doing that sometime, but if it is the case that a company need to cut labor costs to be competitive, then that's what they need to do. We're facing a competitive world and if our country's firms don't do a good job then someone else's will.

In the long run a country that allows for a flexible market is going to create more jobs then a country that does not allow for one. Look at the employment situation in the USA/UK vs the one in France/Germany.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Yeah, well, we always forget to compare youth underempoloyment in America. Not making enough money is virtually the same as not making any money when it comes to having a place to live or transportation. Sure, you can keep your utilities on if you make a small payment (assuming you have a place) and you can buy some food, and there is a netowrk of church based charities to help you find God if you want some food for your kids (the real reason behind faith-based subsidies).

It's tough to be a youth anywhere, and it isn't anywhere near as easy in America as libertyrants like to think.

You're damn right it's tough to be young in this country when you are just starting out. It can be very difficult to find a professional job when you are just out of college and starting out. I was able to find a good job straight out of college, but not all of my friends have been that lucky. I've read plenty of stories about college graduates(liberal arts majors usually) who end up waiting tables for years after graduation.

The very last thing young people need is stupid government policies that lead to massive youth unemployment and prevent young people from ever getting their foot in the door in the first place. You can't be fired from a job if you don't have one to begin with, after all.

It's tough enough as it is, I can't imagine what a nightmare it would be trying to find a job when you are starting out in a country with 20% youth unemployment.