Vinyl or CD?

[Nostromo]

Like I pointed out earlier

And remember that a lot of CD's don't sound as good as their vinyl counterparts because they were incompetently mastered.

This is especially true for the early CD's. That's why they were all recently remastered or in the process of being remastered. For example, here's what Allmusic says about the remastered version of Genesis' Selling England by the pound

The definitive remastered edition from 1996 is a significant improvement, in sound and packaging, over the earlier version from Atlantic.

Mind you, I'm not denying there's a difference between Vinyl and CD, but its probably not dramatic as some people let on.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by nostromo
Mind you, I'm not denying there's a difference between Vinyl and CD, but its probably not dramatic as some people let on.

CDs use 16-bit samples. This corresponds to the range of 0Hz - 65535Hz, a range far greater than human hearing (~20Hz - 20000Hz).

[asleepathewheel]

What about digital vinyl cd-rs from verbatim?

???

[Nostromo]

A recovering audiophile friend of mine told me that vinyls introduce a bit of distorsion in the sound, hence the reported warmer sound. (Pekka pointed it out earlier)

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by nostromo
An recovering audiophile friend of mine told me that vinyls introduce a bit of distorsion in the sound, hence the reported warmer sound.

Oh yeah. I remember reading that somewhere.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


CDs use 16-bit samples. This corresponds to the range of 0Hz - 65535Hz, a range far greater than human hearing (~20Hz - 20000Hz).

16 bits has nothing to do with frequency range. 16 bits corresponds to amplitude recreation.

[Urban Ranger]

Audiophiles have the strangest notions at times.

[MRT144]

UR there are two things on CDs, the 44.1khz sampling frequency and the 16 bit amplitude reproduction.

the 44.1khz refers to how many little snapshots of audio are taken per second of analog audio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_Frequency

the bits refer to how many possible levels the audio amplitude can register as. 65536 is how many possibilities they can register as with 16 bit encoding. there is of course 24 bit now and that is used on DVDs and things like that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Audio

eat crow much?

[-Jrabbit]

CDs have less distortion, greater dynamic range and faster transient response.

Vinyl has the greater accuracy of analog reproduction, kind of like the difference between a continuously variable potetiometer and a stepped volume control. The "warmth" factor is a matter of taste. It softens some of the hard edges of digital's clinical reproduction, making it more coherent.

The bottom line on all of this lies in the recording and mastering process. Today's producers and mastering engineers are much more in tune with the abilities and limitations of digital media, especially in terms of how their product will be reproduced by consumer audio systems. For the first decade of the CD Era, the opposite was true.

The tide continues to turn.

[Provost Harrison]

I second MRT144...I read your post and thought it stunk UR

[Tattila the Hun]

MP3's from vinyl.

Oh, and C-cassette:

[MRT144]

i bet UR isnt going to come back and admit he was wrong or try to pass it off as a language misunderstanding or whatever weasly thing most people do.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MRT144
i bet UR isnt going to come back and admit he was wrong or try to pass it off as a language misunderstanding or whatever weasly thing most people do.

You sound like an Asher or DaShi wannabe.

That's bad.

[MRT144]

so still not an admission of being wrong.

[Imran Siddiqui]