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  • #16
    you guys are depressing me
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sava
      btw, if the dems are so smart, how come they couldn't beat Bush... twice?
      To be fair with the dums, they only lost to Bush once.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Spiffor

        To be fair with the dums, they only lost to Bush once.
        but to be in the position where the whole debacle in Florida would matter... for it to be that close in the first place...

        IMO, that makes it a loss

        it should have never gotten to that point

        and how did that situation turn out? who ended up being president?


        yeah that's right

        so don't tell me they didn't lose

        DONT CRAP ME NOW

        NO NO NO
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #19
          2000 election myths.

          The only thing that will help is if they run John Kerry again in 2008. I mean, come on, he was so close the last time, give the guy a second chance.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Winston

            The only thing that will help is if they run John Kerry again in 2008. I mean, come on, he was so close the last time, give the guy a second chance.
            I might just set myself on fire outside the DNC headquarters if they do that
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              If you absolutely have to, couldn't you do it inside then?

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              • #22
                they probably have sprinklers and stuff
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sava


                  sure


                  but my contention is that the democrats are stupid at politics AND in general
                  Yeah, but who cares whose smarter in general, because it doesn't win elections.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sandman
                    The Republicans own the language and frame the debate. It's that simple.

                    The only way forward for the Democrats, IMO, is to go for all-out protectionism. Think about it. Tariffs aren't a rightwing swearword like taxes and regulation. Bush occasionally flip-flops on the issue himself.
                    They'll be able to attack someone for being a protectionist, it just won't hold with everyone.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      they probably have sprinklers and stuff
                      Yeah, and lots of ex-candidates crying hysterically isn't too helpful either.

                      How about voting for the other guy then. To help the Dems perfect their special election skill?

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