Shiites told: Leave home or be killed

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Even the ICJ said that the war was illegal.

[Az]

They should split the country into three.

[Richelieu]

Nothing like Texas sand to plug your ears...

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
They should split the country into three.

actually Talabani, Pres of Iraq and Kurdish leader, is acting as mediator between the Sunnis and Shias, in an attempt to keep the country together. The Kurdish leadership, at any rate, is quite aware of the dangers from Iraq breaking up.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
Even the ICJ said that the war was illegal.

Didnt the ICJ say it would be illegal even if the UNSC did approve of it?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Didnt the ICJ say it would be illegal even if the UNSC did approve of it?

I do not know, I've never heard of that before. I would doubt it though, since international law rests on the UNSC maintaining peace and security, and it is only that body would can give authorization for war in case of a breach.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

actually Talabani, Pres of Iraq and Kurdish leader, is acting as mediator between the Sunnis and Shias, in an attempt to keep the country together. The Kurdish leadership, at any rate, is quite aware of the dangers from Iraq breaking up.

yeah, I think idealy they would like Iraq to say together with a system that leaves them pretty much autonomous (or as much autonomy as they can get) It would avoid all the problems, and still give them their own place to live.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Sava
UNSC Resolutions are pretty much all IMO

I've been reading some from 2001.

I like this one regarding the Congo

http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/262/20/PDF/N0126220.pdf?OpenElement

WOW

they are expressing DEEP CONCERN

HOLY ****

well BRAVO





WOW

MORE DEEP CONCERN




uh oh

GRAVE CONCERN

NOW YOU'VE DONE IT!!!!

I wonder if they ever run out of descriptive terms to express their "concern".



well that's good... I'm glad they CONDEMNED it and didn't ENDORSE it...

but really... if nobody does anything, what does it matter if they condemn it or not?

inaction might as well be an endorsement of the atrocities, right?

and of course... let's not leave out a good asskissing



YES... STRONG LEADERSHIP


so the UNSC can go **** ITSELF, IMO

anything it says, it's resolutions, are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned...

their words are empty

the top nations that sit on the "Security Council" are also the top ARMS DEALERS in the world...

the guns that are being used in these conflicts... you think they are being made in these countries?

You think these weapons have "MADE IN CONGO" stamped on them?

The same countries "condemning" this violence, and dictating these resolutions are the same countries arming these regimes.

so the UNSC can go **** itself

You MORON! Don't have even the smallest clue, if you've been reading all these UN resolutions, that they begin with explanitory statements, which says why they are doing what they are doing? Why don't you read the actual acts part of the resolution instead of mocking the explinations .

[Richelieu]

Explain that to me again?







*runs*

[Lawrence of Arabia]

This forum has a real lack of people who understand international law.

which means that there are a lot of people who just make **** up as they go along.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SlowwHand

If you insist on putting the Mideast on Bush, and/or calling it invasion

What exactly would you have us call it, Slowwie?

It was an invasion by any reasonable definition of the word.

[Lord Avalon]

If the country gets split into three, the Sunnis get screwed, because they don't live in oil-rich areas.

Turkey will not like an independent Kurdistan, because they have Kurds in their country, and wouldn't like losing any part of it to a Kurdistan.

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Sandman
Edit - in reply to DRoseDARs

Will the Kurds in Turkey and Iran suddenly cease to exist if a small Kurdistan breaks off from Iraq?

Originally posted by Last Conformist
Are you advocating ethnic cleansing?

The two of you CAN'T be that dense...

Originally posted by Oerdin
Start redrawing borders and we'll likely see a whole host of ethnic minorities clammering for they're own state.

Originally posted by Oerdin
Not at all. In fact we'd likely see resurgent nationalism and increased irridentist movements in Syria, Turkey, and Iran. In the long run self determination of peoples would be a good thing but in the short run you'd likely see those three countries (and the Kurd-Arab border areas of Iraq such as Mosul and Kirkuk) react violently to such changes.

Thank you, Oerdin. Now, I didn't say it was a good idea, just a logical one. I know full well the slippery slope dangers of spliting the artificially combined Iraq.

[Destroyer]

Dont they understand, all we want is the oil.

We dont really care that much if they wipe each other out.

They dont even care for the oil that much themselves.

I find is strangely amusing and worrying at the same time that Muslims in any large number cant live with any other people in peace (including themselves) without major problems. As soon as they obtain a large enough population, they will more than likely try to declare their own mini states all across Europe, because they cant bare to live under our rules.

I hate religion, but most of the others submit to the rule of law above all else, which is what Western civilisation is built upon.

I wonder what will happen once Iran develops nukes. I dont thinl Israel will allow this to happen, although I think they eventually will. I think in taking out Saddam, we may have lost a potential ally further down the line.

If you hand out Democracy, you better be bloody sure you know who they are going to vote for, or you end up with another Adolf Hitler. Sometimes a Dictatorship can be a good thing (for us).

[Dr Strangelove]

I don't understand what you guys are yammering about. The President of the United States of America has stated that there is no civil war in Iraq, so that's the end of the story.








Even a third grader knows that the civil war took place in the USA. Shhheeeeeeessssssshhhhhhhh, are you guys umb-day.