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  • #16
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    Facts and Odin don't mix.
    No, I just typed before I thought.

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    • #17
      Serb will love this map.
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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      • #18
        They should have put Ukraine as a "Free country" for the 2005 session, and as an "unfree country" in 2004, for Serb's horro to be complete
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        • #19
          Well, Russia does have no compulsory ID's you know.
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          • #20
            They should've used more colors. It's pretty absurd to put Turkey in the same color as Nepal, and Russia in the same category as Burma.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by alva
              Serb will love this map.

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              • #22
                Right-wingers think "freedom" requires capitalism
                care to explain how you go about confiscating all that private property owned under capitalism in the name of freedom without using force or coercion?

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                • #23
                  They should've used more colors.


                  rainbows are for gays.
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    Facts and Odin don't mix.
                    He knows his science, but his political posts are often emotional and/or reactionary.
                    He's got the Midas touch.
                    But he touched it too much!
                    Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                    • #25
                      India is an island of free green in a sea of non-free blue .

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ramo
                        They should've used more colors. It's pretty absurd to put Turkey in the same color as Nepal, and Russia in the same category as Burma.

                        Thats why they have numbers. Both political and civil rights are rated on a 1 to 7 scale. A "partly free" can be a 3-3, a 3-4, or as low as a 5-5. Theyve historically only used three categories on the maps. In the memories of living men there was no internet, these things were mainly distributed in a thing called a "newspaper" which did not have colors except in the sunday comics section, and a map with more than 3 categories would have sent alot of folks to the eye doctor, where there was NO laser surgery to repair the damage.


                        and most folks spoke simply of democracies and dictatorships (as many still do) and so the establishment of 3 categories was a major teaching exercise. I would venture it still is today. A teaching that would be lost if they made it more complex with 4 or 5 categories.


                        Note Turkey is 3-3, and Nepal is 5-5.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by alva
                          Serb will love this map.
                          I think they are being a tad hard on Russia. As one of their essays explains, Russia is a "dominant party" system - a concept FH used in regard to Mexico in the 70s. Is Russia today really more repressive than Mexico circa 1975? Yet Mexico was always rated Partly Free by FH in those days, IIRC.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by lord of the mark



                            Theyve addressed this over the years since 1973. Theyve pointed out that Social democracies in Scandinavia almost always get the highest rankings, and that Chile under Pinochet got almost the lowest. They have pointed out that socialism CAN put more power in the hands of an authoritarian govt, but that this is not necessarily so.
                            Wait a minute - are these the guys who rated Denmark as more economically free than the USA?
                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Berzerker


                              care to explain how you go about confiscating all that private property owned under capitalism in the name of freedom without using force or coercion?
                              Not all socialists are of the "revolution and will all the rich people" types. There is such things and compensating the former owners of nationized industries and putting in incentives and regulations that make co-ops more competitive than private companies.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Last Conformist

                                Wait a minute - are these the guys who rated Denmark as more economically free than the USA?
                                no, they dont do economic freedom, youre thinking of someone else.
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