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  • #61
    * the number of any designated document which is held by him/her and is a document the number of which does not fall within any of the preceding sub-paragraphs


    whats a designated document? Like my swimming certificates?

    Records of provision of information

    * particulars of every occasion on which information contained in the individual's entry has been provided to a person


    This is a good thing! If its my identity card, I should be able to get this information
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    • #62
      Dauphin, No. There is a chip on the new cards issued in 2005, but no biometric data or cross-referencing is allowed due to privacy laws. And ID cards are not mandatory, a drivers license or a passport is equal to an ID.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Snotty
        Records of provision of information

        * particulars of every occasion on which information contained in the individual's entry has been provided to a person


        This is a good thing! If its my identity card, I should be able to get this information
        Works the other way too. Every time you've presented your ID card it becomes available knowledge to someone given/gaining access to your card. Be it an application for a bank account, a trip abroad, a car insurance claim, a drunk and disorderly warning, etc...
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Zoid
          Dauphin, No. There is a chip on the new cards issued in 2005, but no biometric data or cross-referencing is allowed due to privacy laws. And ID cards are not mandatory, a drivers license or a passport is equal to an ID.
          I don't know when or if its mandatory to have an ID card, but anyone seeking a new passport will need one as of 2008 under the legislation.
          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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          • #65
            Seems like you´re heading straight for Dystopia...
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            • #66
              Don't worry, you too. France is doing the same, and the onbly reason why my brand-new passport isn't biometric is because of technical problems.
              There are two reasons for France going biometric (despite advanced privacy laws), which are 1) the general reactionary/pro-authoritarian climate in French politics, and 2) US pressure wrt issuing visas to French citizens wishing to visit the US.

              Edit: with the trends as they are in Europe and in the US, I fail to see why Sweden would miraculously avoid biometric moronism
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              • #67
                Internal passports.

                /me gleefully waits for Serb to pop by and tell us how Stalin was merely ahead of his time.
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                • #68
                  Here's a good anti-ID site.

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                  • #69
                    The irony is that I can see how an ID card would make my life easier. I need a form of ID that's universally accepted, isn't a driver's license since I don't drive nor a passport since I'm terrified of losing mine on a night out. I'd go get an ID card tomorrow if they were cheap, accepted eveywhere and had basic information on them. Basically, if the government had gone "we're doing this to make your life easier" then I'd have no objections.

                    They pointedly haven't done that. The whole ID card push has been basically been the government saying "we don't trust you" and pushing it on us for their benefit.

                    Our opposition to ID cards used to drive my Swedish ex-boyfriend insane but he just didn't get the entirely different ethos between why Sweden has ID and why the UK government wants us to have ID.
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                    • #70
                      You could always get a fake ID http://www.phatism.com/
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                      • #71
                        My university can print a campus card ID in under a minute that has my picture on it, a unique identifying number, my date of birth, and carries information about my status at university. For free.

                        So why it would cost £30-£100 for a government ID card is beyond me.
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                        • #72
                          £30-£100? In Spain it costs about 6€
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                          • #73
                            My point exactly.

                            It's the arrogance of the government that's really starting to piss me off. I'm basically a New Labour voter with Lib Dem sympathies. I've got no memory of Thatcher, socialism, the Cold War or anything like that. My wishy washy centre left political leanings are ripe for any political party to capitalise on. Yet this government seems drunk on power at times and a change is needed.
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                            • #74
                              Ok, I agree that the context is probably quite different. We're talking about a country that has legislation for "anti-social behaviour" after all.
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                              • #75
                                And a quarter of the world's CCTV cameras.

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