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  • #16
    Originally posted by Oncle Boris
    Sometimes I find it unbelievable how eurocoms have no sense of civil liberties at all. It definitely must be a strictly anglo-saxon tradition.
    Yes, like the freedom of having your every move recorded by omnipresent security cameras.
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    • #17
      It's public domain, Spiff.

      I think the whole "personal freedoms" issue in this case is bull, but I do wonder about their effectiveness.
      urgh.NSFW

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      • #18
        giving police and anti-terrorism a key tool in identifying people and preventing crime
        I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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        • #19
          Liberty, and not cost, is the main issue here, at least for me, a non-UK resident. We have a compulsory ID here that I in theory have to take with me when I go jogging. **** that. I am hoping to eventually have the thing eliminated, but with the world trend being the opposite, it will be hard to make a case.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Spiffor

            Yes, like the freedom of having your every move recorded by omnipresent security cameras.
            Yeah, what Az said: you should not expect privacy in public spaces, so that's different.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Datajack Franit
              giving police and anti-terrorism a key tool in identifying people and preventing crime
              Cake and grief counseling will be available at the conclusion of the test. Thank you for helping us help you help us all!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by VetLegion
                Yeah, what Az said: you should not expect privacy in public spaces, so that's different.
                I really don't see what is the difference between the two. Your name is public domain just as well as your face.
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                • #23
                  az, yes it will cost a fortune and won't work properly, it's a policy that sums up new labour really. :/

                  and yes of course, it's a shameless attack on our liberty, but that's all in the days work for this lot
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                  • #24
                    I'm not against a national ID card per se, it's how much information that is kept on the card. If the information on it is the same as on a driver's license, I have no problem with it.

                    Oh, and you Brits really need to get a written constution, your current "parliament can do anything it wants" precedent is rediculous.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Spiffor

                      I really don't see what is the difference between the two. Your name is public domain just as well as your face.
                      The difference being that at least I know when my ID card is asked (not that it ever happens), while you're on camera 24 hours a day.
                      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                        giving police and anti-terrorism a key tool in identifying people and preventing crime
                        Has someone hacked your account? What happened to "PRAISE ALLLAAAH!"
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Oncle Boris


                          Sometimes I find it unbelievable how eurocoms have no sense of civil liberties at all. It definitely must be a strictly anglo-saxon tradition. Actually it's the only good thing that has ever come out of their puny civilization.
                          Which civil liberty exactly does an ID violate?
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                          • #28
                            It looks different than a drivers license?
                            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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                            • #29
                              I think people should not be given names anymore. It violates the right to be unknown.
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                              • #30
                                It looks different than a drivers license?


                                urgh.NSFW

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