ID card bill passes

[Az]

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[Datajack Franit]

well it's Italy you know. but this is exactly what happens

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Colon™
What about birth, death and marriage registers then?

I find them significantly less intrusive.

[Colon™]

That's not really an objective criterium.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit

Basically, the purpose of ID cards is:

-police spots someone suspicious
-police asks for ID card and real-time checks national database

Walking freely is a basic right. By analogy, driving cars is not a right, it's a privilege and you have to be licenced to do it, thus - driver's licence. But you're born with two legs and a free spirit to roam the land, and you don't need a licence for that, nor is that right granted to you by some authority to whom you have to prove that you are really you.

Authorities are lazy and think things like ID will reduce crime. No way. If statistics show that immigrants do most crime, then the solution is not politically correct, but nevertheless is easy: get rid of immigrants.

[Datajack Franit]

then the solution is not politically correct

you said it. as long as police asking ID cards to immigrants and foreign-looking people only it considered a racist act, the only way to get rid of human dirt is checking everyone without any distinction. when your country will be a terrorism target, you'll change your mind about it.

[Odin]

Originally posted by VetLegion

Authorities are lazy and think things like ID will reduce crime. No way. If statistics show that immigrants do most crime, then the solution is not politically correct, but nevertheless is easy: get rid of immigrants.

Sounds like the airport people who search old white ladies so they don't look like they are targeting middle-easterners.

[Fake Boris]

I think some people have been reading Mein Kampf tonight.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Colon™
UK'ers are being crybabies about this.

I agree with the chocolate duck.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Will everyone be tagged as well with motion sensors? Just to make sure they don't hang out with terrorists, of course.

If you don't have your tag, you are a dirty commienazi terrorist

[Spiffor]

Honest people have nothing to fear, and will happily get tagged!

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Will everyone be tagged as well with motion sensors? Just to make sure they don't hang out with terrorists, of course.

If you don't have your tag, you are a dirty commienazi terrorist

I say insert the video camera into forhead too, to make sure what theterrorists are doing!

Honest people have nothing to fear, and will happily get tagged!

[Dauphin]

Barcodes for all.

[Zoid]

I don´t understand what all the fuss is about. Sweden has had ID cards since time immemorial.

[Dauphin]

Does it contain all the following information, cross-referenced to a centralised database?

Personal information

* full name

* other names by which person is or has been known

* date of birth

* place of birth

* gender

* address of principal place of residence in the United Kingdom

* the address of every other place in the United Kingdom where person has a place of residence.

Identifying information

* a photograph of head and shoulders

* signature

* fingerprints

* other biometric information

Residential status

* nationality

* entitlement to remain in the United Kingdom where that entitlement derives from a grant of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom, the terms and conditions of that leave

Personal reference numbers

* National Identity Registration Number

* the number of any ID card issued

* allocated national insurance number

* the number of any relevant immigration document

* the number of their United Kingdom passport

* the number of any passport issued to the individual by or on behalf of the authorities of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom or by or on behalf of an international organisation

* the number of any document that can be used by them (in some or all circumstances) instead of a passport;

* the number of any identity card issued to him/her by the authorities of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom

* any reference number allocated to him/her by the secretary of state in connection with an application made by him for permission to enter or to remain in the United Kingdom

* the number of any work permit relating to him/her;

* any driver number given to him/her by a driving licence;

* the number of any designated document which is held by him/her and is a document the number of which does not fall within any of the preceding sub-paragraphs

* the date of expiry or period of validity of a document the number of which is recorded by virtue of this paragraph.

Record history

* information falling within the preceding paragraphs that has previously been recorded about him/her in the Register

* particulars of changes affecting that information and of changes made to his/her entry in the Register

* date of death.

Registration and ID card history

* the date of every application for registration made by him/her

* the date of every application by him/her for a modification of the contents of his entry

* the date of every application by him/her confirming the contents of his entry (with or without changes)

* the reason for any omission from the information recorded in his/her entry

* particulars (in addition to its number) of every ID card issued to him/her

* whether each such card is in force and, if not, why not

* particulars of every person who has countersigned an application by him/her for an ID card or a designated document, so far as those particulars were included on the application

* particulars of every notification given about lost, stolen and damaged ID cards

* particulars of every requirement by the secretary of state for the individual to surrender an ID card issued to him.

Validation information

* the information provided in connection with every application to be entered in the Register, for a modification of the contents of his entry or for the issue of an ID card

* the information provided in connection with every application confirming entry in the Register (with or without changes)

* particulars of the steps taken, in connection with an application mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b) or otherwise, for identifying the applicant or for verifying the information provided in connection with the application

* particulars of any other steps taken or information obtained for ensuring that there is a complete, up-to-date and accurate entry about that individual in the Register

* particulars of every notification given by that individual for changing details in the register.

Security information

* a personal identification number to be used for facilitating the making of applications for information recorded in his/her entry, and for facilitating the provision of the information;

* a password or other code to be used for that purpose or particulars of a method of generating such a password or code

* questions and answers to be used for identifying a person seeking to make such an application or to apply for or to make a modification of that entry.

Records of provision of information

* particulars of every occasion on which information contained in the individual's entry has been provided to a person

* particulars of every person to whom such information has been provided on such an occasion

* other particulars, in relation to each such occasion, of the provision of the information.